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955 vs the 265 - My Experience as a 955 user.

I am doing the thread as a way to compare the 955 to the 265 (I couldn't get a 965)

I am just a normal person who enjoys running (for over 40 years) , I am almost 60 , and I have had a Garmin since the 201.

I recently had a 630 then 745 and now a 955. I was interested to see how the 265/965 experience and especially screen compared.

I just received the 265 so I haven't much feedback as yet. I have put some images of the Firmware versions and details for info.

I have copied my activity setups using Android File Manager (I use iOS devices) for the 955 to the 265 and it worked ok, apart from the IQ data fields that aren't compatible as yet.

So far I would say I find the screen garish , but I need to sort the screen setup and colours of the base watch faces still. 

Not sure why its "Partially Compatible" with the Unified Device Setup though

Ok thats it for now.

UPDATE 1. (3 March 2023)

  • Two things I did notice:
  • 1. Pressing an icon on the touchscreen on the standard watch face does go to the widget.
  • 2. Sleep settings on watch allows for a schedule with different hours per day of the week.

UPDATE 2. (4 March 2023)

  • Did First short run (5k) with the 265 (sans HRM-PRO)
  • Heart rate recording seems ok. Tough to tell on one easy run, but no funny spikes at least
  • Stride length and cadence within acceptable range, again need more varied runs to get a better feel
  • Need to sort the screen settings better still
  • Not sure on battery usage, went form 74 - 70 during this run (approx 25 mins) but of course one doesn't have decimals so cant be sure. Hopefully some of the battery fields on CIQ will become compatible for this device soon!

UPDATE 3: (5 March 2023)

  • I had a 5k Race planned for today so decided to take the leap and use the 265.
  • Having used an HRM strap for many years, it is nice to not have to wear one for so many metrics now (except L/R% all the RD dynamics are now on the watch) - I need to take some time to analyse them vs the last time I did this course with my 955 (about a month ago and very similar time). For an OHR the HR didn't have odd spikes I sometimes get so that was interesting to me, although not sure why it is considering the OHR is the same as the 955.
  • I am not convinced about screen visibility though , taking a quick glance at the activity stats is challenging as by one has to move ones arm a fair bit to make the gesture activate and the level of the always on is quite low (and I don't think adjustable). I am almost 60 so bear that in mind.
  • I will add more a bit later

UPDATE 4: (5 Mar 2023)

  • First battery indications:
  • 100 17h30 4 Mar 2023
  • 96 05h30 5 Mar 2023
  • 93 08h13 5 Mar 2023
  • 82 10h57 5 Mar 2023 Incl about 9km Full Multi GPS
  • 77 16h35 5 Mar 2023
  • My settings : AOD on , Gesture at 2/3 : Activity AOD on, Gesture at 3/3
  • Honestly AOD may as well be off as its barely visible without gesture, IMO

UPDATE 5: (5 Mar 2023)

I did a compare of two races on the same route using Garmin Connect, one in Feb 23 (FR955 and HRM PRO Plus) and one in Mar 23 (265 OHR) and the screenshot is appended. I'd say that is pretty close! It was a about 5C warmer today hence the temp differences. Hope that is useful!

UPDATE 6: (6 March 2023)

Battery: 70% 07h45 6 Match 2023 , No activities today , just same settings as mentioned above. I think there was about a 1% bump up when I had to connect 265 to laptop to check something on the device drive yesterday evening. So thats around 0,75% per hour over the 38 hours with 1 hour of activity as noted above. Of course one tends to "play" more with the watch at the outset trying to sort settings etc.

UPDATE 7: (6 March 2023)

Did a 35 min run activity , Battery now at 57% (14h55 on 6 Mach 23). I must say the weight of the watch and how it sits is really nice and the feel of the unit is good.  It is definitely different to get used to the display in activity though. I tried to take a short video . I hope this link works    https://imgur.com/a/qFZd8oX

Without sounding silly i almost feel like I have a sore arm from turning it more to get a good look at the display as the gesture seems to be not quick enough and the AOD brightness doesn't change in activities (as far as I can establish), if AOD could be brighter for activities it would help a lot.  It is also nice to look at the data after the run as the graphs do look much nicer on AMOLED than MIP obviously.

UPDATE 8 : (7 March 2023)

Battery 39%  06h55 7 March 2023

Battery 25% 11h30 7 March 2023 (1h15 min activity on full multi-GPS)

Today I did a pyramid session that had been set up via Training Peaks. I decided to use the 265 (no HRM) instead of my trusty 955. The session went well and no issues regarding how the session played out on the watch. The screen displaying during rest period is slightly different to that on the 955. It was a bit overcast today.  The screen is ok , so long as the light is on, BUT I still notice having to change the way I move my arm to get the gesture to activate, as you can imagine this is slightly irritating when one is doing 400m repeats and wants to take a quick glance at the pace meter. As mentioned elsewhere in this post , there is apparently no way adjust the sensitivity of gesture movement currently. I did not get an LT update request. You will see a post of the session HR and Power zones split lower down in this forum. For sure looking at the graphs of the activity on the screen , in good light conditions is really nice.

FINAL UPDATE (7 March 2023)

Battery is at 19% now 15h43 on 7 March 2023 , so just on 3 days I guess , with 3 activities on Full GPS , so I guess in my use case and settings one would see approx 4 days. Of course one does fiddle more with a new watch. 

Ok all, those were my experiences with the 265. Going back to the great 955 now. 

In summary, its a great watch, seems well made, in the correct light conditions the screen is great. It needs some finessing, especially as regards the gesture sensitivity - in my view. Sits nicely on the wrist as well. It was also enjoyable not using an HRM and having what seems good OHR readings as well as some of the Running Dynamics. 

Just hoping that Garmin looks after us 255/955 customers and that the software issues remaining get addressed. We deserve that. Lets keep pushing.

I hope this has been helpful to you, it was certainly helpful to me, and thank you for your constructive inputs and feedback, it was enjoyable!

There now , no more FOMO... 

Take care and good luck in your sporting endeavours!

SMR

  • Interesting , I wonder if one can toggle the display for activities. I can't see a setting for it looking at the various settings. Let me chat with support.

  • If one has full brightness it is nice and vibrant, its just to get the angle correct .... and of course in an activity that is rather fiddly. If the AOD during activities as brighter and one did not have to rely on gesture it might make it a bit easier as I find I need to turn my arm a bit further than I normally do to glance at the in activity data.

  • It doesn't seem possible to toggle the display , I asked support as well and they said one can change accent colour, but that won't make a black on white situation as far as I can establish

  • Whilst doing my run today I was wondering why Garmin hadn't recreated the 4xx series (as an example) and made 455 AMOLED for instance . This would have given space in the range and possibly less alienated  255 users. Also why not create a 1055 with AMOLED  a and leave the 955 as the top MIP watch or something similar. Both the 255 and 955 are absolutely great watches (irritating bugs aside) and its a pity they handled it this way, I mean what is the next 955 non AMOLED? or is that the next 7xx and the next 55 (say 65) is then the base non AMOLED in place of 255 and gets further features? Who knows , what a naming shambles

  • The amoled screen is fancy,but not enough for me to change. I bought the 955 in June and in December decide to buy a watch more discreet for daily usage,and have the option between Fēnix 7 and epix 2 and I choose Fenix 7 solar. Probably it will have a market place for the 965,265 and epix but is not my case, today! Tomorrow my opinion about sport watches with amoled screen can change,but today is this one :-) S.M.R thanks for your work to give us an idea like this watch works, that way people can decide between MIP and AMOLED screen in the hands of a non YouTuber reviewer. 

  • Very bad, MIP rules!

  • The problem was in the launch of Fēnix 7 they have space to introduce the Epix 2 with an AMOLED display, because in outdoor market there is enough space for that. Some people go for amoled, others MIP with solar charge. In the forerunner series there is no space to introduce at same time an 955 non solar,an solar version and an amoled version. If Garmin made that the most probable scenario was 955 non solar and 955 AMOLED version sell a lot and the solar version don't sell like they pretend. That way they have room enough to sell lots of forerunners 955 regular and solar version and get enough time to work in a new interface of the watch and rebrand as a 965

  • Yes , this is how I found this . I put a video in todays (6 Mar 2023) update in the OP that shows what i mean , to the extent i could. I suppose like anything it's a case of getting used to it...if one should have to...

  • well, i think your video has pretty much sold me on keeping my 955 Solar. the AMOLED is certainly beautiful. and while i wear my watch 24/7 and wouldn't mind a prettier display for day to day use, finickiness and/or lesser visibility at a glance while running/hiking/cycling is a deal breaker.

    i'm guessing if there was a setting that kept the screen "full bright" during activity, it would consume a significant amount of battery.

    thanks again for "taking one for the team" and giving the rest of us such useful information,