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O2 Measuring needs dramatic improvement. Been porting issues with it for years, but during covid is even more important...

It almost feels to me like the team over at Garmin doesn't understand exactly what the O2 sensor is measuring, or why.  Personally, as a person with Asthma, I like to keep an eye on when working out.  Though in especially older versions of the software the O2 sat would be disabled during exercise, which kind of misses the point.  The again the section in the Garmin Connect app lists the O2 readings as Pulse Ox Acclimation (or Pulse OX & Acc.), except for one major issue.... This section does not show your pulse rate it is just O2 (or Oxi if you prefer) and Acclimation (which still has its own other issues). On the website version of Garmin Connect it is just listed as Pulse Ox, because the Acclimation is not on that screen, but then AGAIN neither is pulse.

The way the watch reads your O2 sat has also somewhat confused me.  It uses the Red LEDs for O2 Sat, because Red is better for this function, but the Green for Pulse though either Red or Green is fine for this function (and Green uses less battery supposedly). Turning on all day O2 tends to pulse between Red and Green, which is known to actually cause confusion in sensors due to numerous reports (and would help explain the horribly inaccurate pulse as well).  It also seems to cut my battery life in half (surprising but whatever).  The frustrating part is I am not actually getting all day O2 readings.  It is extremely common for me to look at the reading and have the reading state it was from 8+ hours ago, and more than 50% of the time 12+ hours ago.  So, I will sit there keeping my wrist very still while it takes a manual reading, often while wearing a finger Pusle Oximeter.  More often than not it fails to read, but when it does, I have found it to read on average 5-10% lower than actual. I have provided pictures of this to Garmin on more than one occasion. Then to top it off, the app and website show 1 hour averages for my O2 saturation, except how does it have those numbers if it hasn't read for 12+ hours?


This wouldn't be so bad but as an Asthmatic recently diagnosed with breakthrough covid it would be nice to quickly see my O2 saturation or get alerted when it drops significantly, but I can't rely on its testing frequency or accuracy. I do realize this is not a medical device but being off by more than 10% at times is extreme.  Below 92% it is recommended to see a doctor, so having it read low by 10+% implies I should be getting an ambulance when I am actually at 98% and it is reading in the mid 80s.

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  • Former Member
    0 Former Member over 3 years ago
    I do realize this is not a medical device

    You realize it's not a medical device and then write a lengthy post on how frustrated you are with the results because the results aren't consistent with a certified medical device? From Garmin:

    NOTE: Pulse Ox data is intended for recreational use only. This is not a medical device, nor is it intended to diagnose, treat, cure or prevent any disease or condition. 

  • It works fine for me on the FR945. what watch do you have ?

    And hole day measuring is not usefull in my opinion. Buy a meter for on you finger so now and then

  • Please explain to me how in anyway this message is helpful?  There is a difference between not being a medical device and being extremely inaccurate. And not living up to promises (one reading every 12+ hours is not what anyone should consider all day, especially at the expense of more than half of the battery life (with all day 02 on you are lucky to get 5 days). 

    The entire feature just feels throw away and is very mislabeled through the app and website. It also leads to highly inaccurate other metrics. I hit my intensity minute goal for the week watching the movie because of the miss reading pulse rate. It is completely off for VO2 Max as well.  This is not how it is supposed to be. Even Fitbit, which doesn't measure anything accurately, gives more realistic hear rate). 

    Garmin has agreed with me that it shouldn't be that inaccurate and have replaced the unit. I am now on my 3rd FR945.

  • I have a meter for my finger and that's what I am using, but without larger unit I don't get history just instant read. I am on my 3rd FR945.  I am definitely not the only report of how inaccurate the SP02 and Pulse are for this model. 

    At least the chest strap is accurate on pulse, but it doesn't do SP02. 

  • Former Member
    0 Former Member over 3 years ago in reply to BlackScarab
    There is a difference between not being a medical device and being extremely inaccurate.

    Exactly!  One is a medical device expected to work and the other is clearly stated it is to be used for recreational purposes.  Therefore any results you get should be taken with a grain of salt.  By the way, just like MarinusvD, mine OK for me.  But then again I realize it's not a medical device and don't expect results consistent with a medical device. 

    Even Fitbit, which doesn't measure anything accurately, gives more realistic hear rate).

    So why aren't you using a Fitbit then? 

    Garmin has agreed with me

    Garmin has always replaced watches for those who insist theirs is detective.  It's good business practice and doesn't necessarily mean they agree with you. 

    I am now on my 3rd FR945

    Now that speaks volumes.  Time for a fourth? 

  • Again not helpful. 

    Garmin has always replaced watches for those who insist theirs is detective.  It's good business practice and doesn't necessarily mean they agree with you. 

    And Garmin agreed the numbers should not be anywhere near that far off. The used to blame FirstBeat, and said they were working with them on the issue, but now they own FirstBeat and blame it on darker skin tones (of which I am actually pale).  

    In addition Garmin also states it should be at least 95+% accurate, being more than 10% off is well below that standard they set for themselves. As for heart rate is has reported more than 30bpm higher than actual.

    Thank again, as previously stated this is primarily an issue with all day heart rate and both red and green LEDs are working which is known to cause issues. 

    I would kindly request you stop responding to this thread. 

  • Former Member
    0 Former Member over 3 years ago in reply to BlackScarab
    Again not helpful.

    I suspect the only thing you'd find helpful is someone agreeing with your unreasonable expectations. 

    I would kindly request you stop responding to this thread.

    You don't get to post on an open forum and then request someone stop responding because their opinion differs from you. Have a good day BlackScarab and take care of your health.  My wife and I also have breakthrough covid and we both had booster shots.  This sh*t is definitely no fun. 

  • Garmin also states it should be at least 95+% accurate

    Where has Garmin stated this?

  • Former Member
    0 Former Member over 3 years ago

    A side note on why we should take any metrics from a wrist wearable with a grain of salt.  Exposed to Covid 12/25.  Tested positive 12/28.  Today is the 31st and feeling much better.  Just looked at my metrics for the last two weeks. SpO2, HR, Body Battery and Stress show no changes to my norm. I realize some people get sick and they see changes to these metrics, but to expect and rely on our watches to do so can be very foolish.  They are not medical devices and they shouldn't be expected to work as if they were.  Listen to your body, not an object on your wrist.