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Has anyone compared the Garmin Suggested Workouts to the Stryd Workouts?

Actually, the Subject line is the question.  I've noticed that Stryd has added workouts (and a paid membership) to their offering.  I'm wondering if they are better than the Suggested Workouts we get for free from Garmin.

  • I've tried Stryd's workouts and like them.  The main reason I started training with power over pace or HR were the known issues with the latter two.  I haven't done any of Garmin's Suggested Workouts, nor will I unless Garmin makes power native, but I've read post where people are finding it impossible to reach a "suggested" pace during intervals. 

  • Completamente de acuerdo. Los entrenamientos sugeridos de Garmin son excesivamente exigentes para el estado de forma del individuo. Garmin tendrá que trabajar en afinar este aspecto

  • I have no stryd foodpad up to now. So all my remarks are from reading/watching on the web:

    Advantage:

    • Stryd foodpad in general seems to be better for pacing (pace & power) than GPS

    • Marathon Training Plans and setting days for long run

    • training zones for power and “Critical Power” metric

    • recommended power for race day (maximum power target that you able to hold)

    • It seems to be without additional costs for the next 6 months

    Disadvantage:

    • no use of 24/7 day recovery metrics like body battery, resting heart rate. But to be honest, I’m not sure if Garmin really use this information (I follow the daily suggestions since more than 2 months).

    • additional Stryd foodpad sensor for again 229,-€

    • additional Stryd App and training plans from further websites

    • no navigation in the Stryd garmin app

    General comments:

    • For me it seems to be more close to the Garmin Coach Plans, as you have all the activities already in you calendar weeks before. No influence of 24/7 day recovery metrics.

    • I did not understand if the data from my performed runs change the already planned sessions for the following days (beside from the 2 weeks intro to calculate my metrics).

  • The Stryd app in IOS offers many analyses of your training data. E.g. planned versus executed , power curve. Native workout in app builder is announced. In Training peaks you can build your own workout with power (free version) as can your coach (paid subscription needed)

  • I find both Garmin and Stryd workouts to be pretty good. Garmin workouts are great when the weather is good. However, I've skipped most of their suggested workouts due to the climate. It's not feasible to do sprint/VO2 Max workouts in sub-freezing air and hit the suggested targets. I also cannot hit the targeted heart rates when it's super cold outside. It takes nearly 20 minutes to warm up. This is where Stryd rules the roost.

    Another drawback of Garmin's method is using EPOC. If you aren't careful, you'll be running way more miles than you're capable of, running the risk of injury. Plus, EPOC is biased against slower runs and lower heart rates. Again, great in warmer weather where it is easier to have a higher heart rate. 

    Power has the advantage of being heart rate independent. The Stryd footpod compliments the 945 nicely. The only area where power fails is when running severe downhills. That being said, heart rate would fail this area too. Stryd takes many workouts to dial in your Critical Power thresholds. It took about 30 runs of different types to dial mine in. I'm not a fan of the Stryd app, but the Connect IQ field is great and is what I use as my primary target to control when running. 

    My suggestion? Get the Stryd footpod. It's a fantastic addition to the capabilities of the Garmin ecosystem. Try workouts from both entities and learn to make up your own. 

    FYI, I do have the HRM-Run, which can do Power through Garmin. Garmin has a very strange power formula that overestimates your output but correlates with Stryd. Garmin's power solution extrapolates through GPS speed and some of the accelerometer data in the HRM-Run sensor but frequently falls out. It's more of an afterthought currently. I think Garmin wanted to say, "Hey, we can do power too!"