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Delete Training Status

Hi!
My fr945 tells me that my training status is overtrained and because of this my VOMax is going down. I always make high intensity trainings and I know that what the watch tells me is not correct. Do you know if there is a way to delete/reset the training status to be ablento start from zero?
Thank you very much!

  • There is not.

    However, if you only ever train at high intensity then you can expect your fitness to decrease so it's no surprise that your watch is telling you you are overtrained.. That said, it's a bit more complicated to explain why your VO2max is decreasing but no surprises really.

    Start here for some reading so that you can get a better understanding - https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Overtraining

  • Actually, it's the other way around. Your Overtraining status is due to your VO2Max going down.

    I'm not sure how you "know what the watch tells you is not correct".

    You can Pause Training Status if you want. But this is just hiding the problem, not addressing it.

    A training plan made exclusively of high intensity training is probably not a well constructed one, but I am probably not going to convince you of that here. 

  • i fully agre. The trainingstatus is helping me to give me the good balance in the training variation.

  • The trainingstatus is helping me to give me the good balance in the training variation.

    I'm not sure how you "know what the watch tells you is not correct".

    You can Pause Training Status if you want. But this is just hiding the problem, not addressing it.

    I'm going to disagree with both of you here.  And now that I got the rolling eyes, just hear me out.  Here's how Garmin defines Training Status:

    What Is the Training Status Feature on My Garmin Fitness Device?

    The Training Status feature will show you how your training affects your fitness level and performance. Training Status is based on changes to your training load and VO2 max. estimate over an extended time period. You can use your training status to help plan future training and continue improving your fitness level.

    I intentionally underlined what I find to be misleading.  I can trail run, swim, run on a treadmill, do a HIIT cardio workout like the Insanity program, use and elliptical or rowing machine, weight train, do TRX workouts, etc.  These are all workouts that compliment a well rounded fitness program, but because I didn't run outdoors or cycle with a power meter my training status will go from productive or maintaining to unproductive because Garmin decided training status is based on exercises they use to calculate VO2Max.  I'm not saying the VO2Max metric isn't important, but let's call it what it actually is.  Either "running VO2Max training status" or "cycling VO2Max training status", but it's not a true or correct measurement of one's overall "training status" by definition.

    I believe a better picture of one's true training status comes from how Garmin determines training effect.  

    What Is the Training Effect Feature on My Garmin Device?

    Training Effect measures the impact of an activity on your aerobic and anaerobic fitness. Training Effect accumulates during the activity. As the activity progresses, the Training Effect value increases. Training Effect is determined by your user profile information and training history, and heart rate, duration, and intensity of your activity.

    You can clearly have a well balanced training program (load) without the need run or cycle with a power meter.  Michael Phelps has a diet and 10 week training program to use prior to competition you can download online.  It's a very extensive program that consist of swimming (duh) and weight training.  As it stands now, arguably the world's most accomplished Olympian would be unproductive according to Garmin. 

  • because Garmin decided training status is based on exercises they use to calculate VO2Max

    because that's where the empirical data lies that allows for estimations to be derived for us mere mortals. Nothing to do with what Garmin/Firstbeat decide. Simply where the most research data exists.

    Professional athletes have access to a greater range of test and measuring tools that they use to calculate (if they do) their individual training loads.

  • because that's where the empirical data lies that allows for estimations to be derived for us mere mortals

    I'm aware that professional athletes have a far superior range of tools available to them and what the limitations are of my watch, but that's one more reason to call it what it is.  If our watches only have the means to derive VO2Max from running or cycling, then call it running or cycling VO2Max training status.  Have a separate metric such as the info obtained from training effect to give you a training status for all other activities. 

  • Yes.  There was a datafield I used with my 935 that did exactly this.  I don't believe it's been made available for the 945, but I'll try contacting the developer or try sideloading it.  I don't believe Garmin will make any changes and I completely understand why, so this may be my best alternative.  It's just so unmotivating getting a bogus training status level (even if it is an estimation and recommendation) that I've turned off (paused) training status and removed the widget from my watch.

    I can no longer find that datafield in the IQ store.  The few that come up when doing a search for TRIMP don't seem very promising either. Perfect!  :) 

  • As far as I understand it neither Training Effect nor TRIMP try to ascertain the actual success of the training by using some kind of performance as a counter to the training load. I think that's what the Training Status tries to do if it has a means to measure it. It looks at the performance in the form of VO2Max estimate by looking at HR and power (cycling) or pace (road running) and put that in perspective to the load it has observed to find out if you actually are improving as a result of your training, going faster with the same HR for example.

    But none of this has anything to do with the original question. If someone were to do only high intensity road running outdoors or cycling with a power meter and the actual VO2Max estimate went down while load went up, the watch would be right to call this unproductive or overtraining since it most likely is. They are getting worse while training. No one wants that and that's what Garmin tries to prevent here even if not at all perfectly.

  • It looks at the performance in the form of VO2Max estimate by looking at HR and power (cycling) or pace (road running) and put that in perspective to the load it has observed to find out if you actually are improving as a result of your training

    I know what it's doing.  I think it's safe to say most user's in this forum don't own or use a power meter while cycling.  Therefore, the major of 945 owners training status is based on outdoor running only.  My point is since one can improve their VO2Max by doing activities other than running outdoors, maybe they should separate the two metrics.  A VO2Max training status and train status based on other activities the watch isn't capable of getting a VO2Max measurement.  I already get a training effect with my aerobic and anaerobic levels that factors in training history, duration, HR levels and intensity.  This will also be credited to my training load and will give me my recovery.  This is more than enough to give me a training status without the need to do one of the two VO2Max generating activities.  We'll take professional athletes out of the conversation.  For years amateur athletes as individuals or with coaches had training programs where they could see improvements, plateaus and overtraining regardless of said sport.  How were you able to accomplish this before Garmin introduced these metrics and essentially said you were wrong?  We now need Garmin and their limited VO2Max calculations to tell us if were improving or not?  C'mon. 

    But none of this has anything to do with the original question.

    We don't know this as the OP stated " I always make high intensity trainings".  They never said what the watch is stating is lacking.  It may very well show a shortage in high anaerobic exercise.  Your assuming elsewise.