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Suggested workout suggestion

I've been trying the suggested workouts, and so far they've been working for me.  (I've also realized that I probably shouldn't use the recovery time metric as an excuse to sit on the couch and watch television.  Instead, a short slow run may work fine.)

However, I do have a suggestion.  In addition to looking at past results and current training status, the suggested workout should also use future events on the Connect Calendar.  (Yes, currently the Calendar is having issues communicating with other calendars.  That should be fixed.)  If you've got a half marathon planned for Saturday, it would be special if the suggested workout took that into consideration and ramped down your effort the days leading up to the race.

This would require that the Event/Race entry on the calendar should also include the distance of the race.  The ramp down for a 5K is probably significantly different than the ramp down for a 100 mile ultra.  But it would make this new addition to my watch even more useful.

I understand that it does take into account certain planned workouts, but I don't know if it (for example) adjusts Friday's suggested workout for Saturday's 10 mile slow run.  It would be nice if it did.

The suggested workout is a great start, but could be even greater.

(Hey, if you scheduled a race, it might be even cooler if the suggested workout automatically switched on Garmin Coach workouts.  And when will Garmin Coach support training for Marathons and Ultras.  Etc.)

  • Automatically  translated  from  Google:

    In principle your proposal sounds good, but I can think of a couple of comments about it:
    
    1) If the watch takes into account all your recent workouts, all your physical activity and your rest 
    (sleep, etc.), it is possible that the watch knows better than you your true ability to make
    a mark in a race or achieve a fitness goal. If I end up "dead" doing series of 1000 m to 4:30 min/km
    and I set a goal of Half Marathon of 1 hour and 20 minutes, well we will agree that I have it complicated...
    So, what is it more correct? That the watch ignores my REAL state of form and focuses on a plan
    to do the Half Marathon in 1h20 '(it will crush me and I will end up frustrated) or that
    I schedule tasks based on my REAL state of form and my performance in previous trainings
    (1 month, 2 months ...)? 2) I believe that if someone, who knows himself well, who has some experience and sets
    realistic goals and objectives, has a competition in perspective as his next objective,
    he will probably already have a specific training plan for that race of that race,
    specific distance and with a specific time goal, and perhaps you should momentarily dispense
    with the indications of suggestions for "typical" daily goals, such as those suggested
    by the watch each day. It is my modest opinion. Greetings.


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    En principio su propuesta suena bien, pero se me ocurren un par de comentarios al respecto:

    1) Si el reloj tiene en consideración todos sus recientes entrenamientos, toda su actividad física y su descanso (sueño, etc.), cabe la posibilidad de que el reloj sepa mejor que uno mismo su auténtica capacidad para realizar una marca en una carrera o alcanzar un objetivo de forma física. Si yo acabo "muerto" haciendo series de 1000 m a 4:30 min/km y me fijo un objetivo de Media Maratón de 1 hora y 20 minutos, pues estaremos de acuerdo en que lo tengo complicado...  Entonces, ¿qué es lo más correcto? ¿Que el reloj ignore mi estado REAL de forma y se centre en un plan para hacer la Media Maratón en 1h20' (me va a machacar y acabaré frustrado) o bien que me programe tarea en base a mi estado REAL de forma y a mi rendimiento en entrenamientos anteriores (1 mes, 2 meses...)?

    2) Yo creo que si alguien, que se conoce bien a sí mismo, que tiene cierta experiencia y se marca metas y objetivos realistas, tiene una competición en perspectiva como objetivo próximo, probablemente tendrá ya un plan de entrenamiento específico para esa carrera de esa distancia concreta y con un objetivo de tiempo concreto, y tal vez debería prescindir momentáneamente de las indicaciones de sugerencias de objetivos diarios "tipo", como los que nos sugiere el reloj cada día.

    Es mi modesta opinión.  Saludos.

  • I wasn't thinking about turning the suggested workout into a replacement for the Garmin Coach feature (although that is an interesting idea).  I was thinking more along the lines of tapering off different amounts based on the length of an upcoming race.  I'd imagine that you should rest more before a marathon than you would rest before a 5K.  So something simple.

    I do have two other more generic suggestions for the suggested workout feature.

    First, it seems to me that an individual might be more interested in building up endurance or in building up speed.  (Or some combination of both factors.)  If you were able to let Garmin know which of those was your goal (or whatever mixture you wanted), it could structure the suggested workouts to either build up speed or endurance.

    Second (and a bit harder to program), build up on my initial suggestion of tapering off for races based on length of an upcoming race.  Have the suggested workout look at your future calendar.  If you have a rest day scheduled, then include that into the workout suggestions.  (For example, the first and third Wednesday of the month I have a city commission meeting, which means that I cannot do any sort of workout on those days.  If these were scheduled on my calendar as a rest day, then the suggested workout wouldn't schedule a rest day for the day before.  Instead, it might actually schedule something more intense for the previous day since you'll have a full day's rest following that activity.  Alternatively, if you have a long run or a strenuous run scheduled on the calendar, it would take that into account when making a suggestion for the day before.

    The second idea would not replace a full blown Garmin Coach integration into the scheduled workouts.  It would only need to look a few -- a week or less -- days into the future.

  • Did you received an answer from Garmin regarding your suggestions because these are exactly the points I'm also struggeling with: 

    So a raceday with distance in your calendar (for tapering and the correct training structure)

    Possible workout program for a few days ahead (if your sleep, recovery etc stays the same)