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More work on sleep tracking?

Levon
over 5 years ago

Does anyone know if Garmin is working on improving its current sleep tracking metrics/algorithms? I've followed some of the related threads about this over the last year.

Everyone says that Fitbit is the leader in this, I can't imagine their hardware is better, so it must be software, and fixable.

It would be great if Garmin would tweak this, and then push it out as an update to their watches. Just curious if that's even in the works.

  • Former Member
    0 Former Member over 5 years ago

    Agreed 100%. I bought the 945 for its metrics capability of which body battery is a central feature. And as we know from garmin, body battery is heavily dependent on sleep. It follows that if the sleep recording/analysis is wanting in some respects then the body battery metric becomes not totally accurate or reliable. On this note I think that daytime sleep and/or power naps should be detectable and recordable and - as indeed they are on many smartwatches that are less expensive than garmin (yes, even on huawei gt2), and linked to body battery.

  • 0 over 5 years ago in reply to Former Member

    I totally agree. It cannot be that an inferior and cheaper watch can give better sleep metrics than such an expensive and good watch. We know that exact precision is very difficult but this watch tries to look for the best for the sportsman and sleep is not fulfilling it. it cannot be that I am in bed reading a book or watching a series and detect it as deep sleep, every day. in the end the hours of sleep are not real the time of rest is not real and it becomes a useless parameter.

  • 0 over 5 years ago

    Sorry to disappoint you but it seems like Garmin has given up to improve sleep tracking and focuses now fully on sports metrics.

    Actually sleep tracking was quite good in the past, that was when Garmin licensed Firstbeat's sleep algorithm. When they decided to dich that in favor of their own algo, thinks went south. For more than one year now there is no improvement at all with sleep metrics, it remained at the same bad level as after initial introduction. So don't put your hopes on having better sleep metrics ever, seems like this is just a gadget Garmin considers a nifty extra but hardly more

  • 0 over 5 years ago

    Totally agree with improved sleep metrics, sleep score etc. Sleep is such an important part for recovery and it's essential to be able to track accurately in order to bring changes that can make you sleep better. It's a shame that Garmin didn't treat it as a priority. Let's hope things will change for the better!

  • 0 over 5 years ago

    https://www.dcrainmaker.com/2020/06/garmin-shows-off-new-on-device-sleep-tracking-widgets.html

    Seems like your prayers will be heard later this year, when on-device sleep tracking hits the FR945.

  • 0 over 5 years ago in reply to maxkobe

    Like they told him, workout videos will come to the FR945? Or like they said to him, map themes will come?

    I would bet that it will come, but on the FR955.

  • 0 over 5 years ago in reply to maxkobe

    I wonder if this is just the widget, or if the algorithm itself will also be improved?

    Perhaps now with the Garmin acquisition of FirstBeat things will improve.

  • 0 over 5 years ago in reply to Levon
    Levon said:
    I wonder if this is just the widget, or if the algorithm itself will also be improved?

    What I've understood it's the Firstbeat's algorithms and the calculations are done on the watch, not the current Garmin stuff that is analysed on cloud, and then it's easier to have the widget on the watch as the data is analysed on the watch, not requiring you to sync the data to be able to see stuff.

  • 0 over 5 years ago in reply to Levon

    Depends who you talk to but I've found the sleep data on the F6 on the watch better than it was on the phone; although to be fair I did not really look at it too often but it seemed fine. Data is synched from the watch now to GCM so no calculations from GCM.

  • 0 over 5 years ago in reply to Levon

    Yeah let's hope so.

    I just spent a lot of money to buy a FR945. I hope to see great improvements.