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User-Waypoints vs Turn-by-Turn navigation

Fredderic
over 5 years ago

Hi,

as far as I have researched and experimented, this is the state of waypoints and the 945 today:

- If you upload a Course (a predefined Route) manually via USB cable or via an app like the Strava Routes app, this route will not contain any waypoints at all. The map will show you only how far it is to the end of the course.

- If you upload a Course through Garmin Connect, it will be "enriched" with turn-by-turn navigation waypoints. This means that on a busy route, with lots of forks, you will have hundreds of artificially added waypoints, telling you to take a left or right. Garmin Connect also allows you to create your own "Custom" Waypoints, e.g. for Water or Aid-Station.

Problem Scenario:

Say I want to run this trail race, it is 30km long and has 4 aid-stations along the way. I add the course in garmin-connect, and mark each aid-station on it. I wish to get the information how far I have to go to reach the next aid-station during the race.

If I do the above, uploading the course via garmin connect will add in all the turn-by-turn waypoints, and my carefully setup datascreen containing Datafields like "Navigation->Distance to Next" and similar will **NOT** show the distance to the next aid-station, but rather it will show the distance until the next autogenerated turn-by-turn navigation turn is hit (which is every few hundred meters in path heavy places). My own custom waypoints still exists, but I cannot use them due to the added turn-by-turn information that I did not explicitly want!

Solution Suggestion:

- I would like to select if I want turn-by-turn navigation on the watch. If it bothers me, let me disable it - maybe even the other way around, let me enable it if I want it.

- Any waypoint specific datafields like "Distance to Next" etc. (there are a few in the Navigation category) should ignore any automatically added turn-by-turn waypoints, this is not what I want to know about!

  • 0 over 5 years ago in reply to grzeg1

    I've had this issue for YEARS with the Garmin devices. The entire waypoint/navigation features of these devices works in a strange and semi broken way.

    I remember when they first added the ability to create courses in garmin connect WITH waypoints. I synced my first course to the watch and found out it didn't even seem to "see" the waypoint I created. If I recall correctly you can see them on the map itself but they don't show as the next waypoint in any of the navigation datafields.

  • 0 over 5 years ago

    Definetly nice that there is a way to get things to work as expected, but obviously the current state is *very* bad usability wise, you basically need to search this forum to learn of ways to do this properly. The funny thing is that the complaints are not so loud because the power-users that post on this forum know the work-around and hence are less bothered, all the people who are failing to use the waypoints and never post on forums (the 99%+) are in silent agony.