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First workout screen - can someone explain?

Levon
over 6 years ago

I've looked through the manual and also online, but I can't find an explanation for this screen, specifically the red-green-red band at the top. I think it's an indicator for cumulative pace, i.e., if I'm running in the correct pace range for the workout. I'm not sure though. Plus I'm not sure if it includes/excludes warm-ups/cool-downs. I've looked at this during my workout but haven't been able to make sense of it. I seem to be in the green range when my pace is clearly outside the workout pace - which made me think about this being cumulative.

Can anyone point me to some place were this is documented?

  • 0 over 6 years ago

    On the Fenix 5, when using heart rate based workouts, the green indicates you are within the heart rate zone.  If time based, not sure if it's cumulative or the pace you should be for that step of the workout.  I assume it's the for the current step of the workout because that's how it works for HR based workouts.  Sorry, I've only done HR based workouts.

  • 0 over 6 years ago in reply to HieroGLFX

    Thanks , I'm not doing HR based training, so it must be related to pace. I guess it'll take a few more runs and trials for me to figure this out. I wish all of the screens were clearly documented somewhere, I mean these watches are great at generating metrics, a bit more context/explanation would help make better use of them.

  • 0 over 6 years ago

    Hi!

    The upper data field is a gauge for pace.

    Its related to average round pace. If I build a training and want to run 15km with a pace of 5:00, I will set a interval of 1km and repeat it 15 times. This way, the gauge is more precise and the pace alarms (which are also using average round pace) will work better. 

  • 0 over 6 years ago in reply to BeneGi

    Thank you , this is helpful, but could you explain what you men by 'round pace'? Oh, does this refer to the given pace for each defined step (ie round?) of the workout?  And totally independent of lap pace (mine is set to auto-lap every mile).

    So for your example it would always reflect the average pace for  the given 1 km you are running in your 15 repeats?

  • 0 over 6 years ago in reply to Levon

    I think (didn't validate it yet) that it is always per training step. On Fenix 5 (I did use it until 2 weeks ago) it worked that way:
    one segment in a training (15km for example) was one "lap", that's why I startet do make it 15 segments a 1km. Autolap got disabled on programmed trainings

    On FR 945, Garmin changed some things. As I observed, a segment starts a new lap and then, auto lap sets in on the given interval. 
    Im using Garmin Coach now to reach 48min/10km, stepping down from half marathon. One of the workouts with the new behavior is:
    https://connect.garmin.com/modern/activity/3699212755#

    The pace gauge was working per training segment (1,6km, not 1km and 0,6km) I think. I don't use this view a lot, im using a screen showing lap pace and lap distance.

  • 0 over 6 years ago

    When I used pace-based training workouts on my F5X it appeared to me that the arrow in the gauge at the top was driven by a somewhat rounded instant pace (maybe something like a 10 second average pace) and the pace displayed numerically was the average for the entire workout step so far.

    I didn't find it documented anywhere either, so this was just what I guessed from looking at it over many structured workouts.

  • 0 over 6 years ago

    I am doing one of the Garmin Coach 10k plans with a time goal and that gauge shows me my average pace for that particular step of the workout.  So if I have goal pace repeats it will show me where my average pace is in my goal pace range for each repeat.  If I have a step where I am supposed to run 30 minutes within a certain pace range it will show me the average for that particular step, meaning the 30 minutes.  It does not pull your slower pace for the warm up into the average on that gauge for subsequent steps.

    At least that's how it appears to be working for me.

  • 0 over 6 years ago in reply to winfij

    Ok, great, thanks .. that is helpful  - yes, it would be super-helpful if Garmin would document some of these screens and metrics somewhere. I looked through the PDF manual but didn't find any info on this, so I'm appreciative of the responses here.

  • 0 over 6 years ago in reply to lindajm22

    Excellent, thanks , that is helpful and seems to be the consensus, so I'll try to verify this in my next few runs. I wish it was documented somewhere.

  • 0 over 6 years ago

    I think your assumption is correct, it is the average pace (assuming the workout is pace based) for that segment. What isn't clear to me is if the pace field shown at the same time is "instant" pace (which would be useful) or if it is also average pace (Which is not useful IMHO as that info is already on the band display,