Garmin Health Snapshot that came out for the Venu 2, will the 945LTE get this feature?

The Venu 2 is still doing a 2 minute test for this feature, but it's measuring HRV with the oHRM.  It might be a little inconvenient to use a chest strap, but the results will be more accurate and isn't that what we want as users?  It might be older technology, but in my opinion it's still better. 

Yes - i REALLY also want to see this + more in depth analysis - in my Opionion Garmin is still lacking a good and convenient Recovery/Morning Recovery feature like Polar or Whoop delivers - i dont know why garmin just does not tie all its Infos together to give the Athlete an easy to understand Recovery/ Morning Recovery metric. All the data is there - HRV from optical , All day HRV, Load, EPOC, even sleep and a sleep quality metric - Respiration spo2 - stress ... all this data is there but its all over the app and not easy for the User to understand. 

All this data could be used to give the Athlete an easy to undertstand heads up in the morning - go for it or just rest. 

Whoop does the best job here in regards of accesability for the user. 

Please Garmin you have the data - tie it together :) 

Vaya1989 said:

All the data is there

Most of the data is coming from the WHR.  Is this data you trust?

Yes 

its 2021 

the tech is good enough to derive good hrv data from the wrist at night / rest  - there are also several studies out there which show this 

even very good hrv data can be derived from Handy cams. See HRV4Training.com if you need more information on this.

the tech is good enough at rest - the data is there - garmin only needs to make better use of it and implement it in a meaningful way in their app 

when you move hrv data is completely meaningless so no need to have correct hrv data while moving  

Vaya1989 said:

there are also several studies out there which show this 

There's also many studies that show how poorly the WHR works.  The effectiveness of the WHR is an individual thing and not a standard.  Worn too loosely or tight will affect it's data.  Movement, especially during sleep will affect the data.  Skin complexion, body hair, sweat accumulation under the sensor and muscle mass are a few more to add to the list.  A chest strap isn't error free, but it's doesn't have nearly the amount of challenges or limitations of the optical sensor. 

Vaya1989 said:

the data is there

But is it correct or even close enough with the WHR to be useful?  It's my belief that it isn't.

Im not talking about hR accuracy during any kind of movement 

for this your comment applies correctly 

nearly every higher end optical sensor out there is able to correctly measure hr during rest - where also hrv can be measured. 

hrv is only useful during rest 

and as said above the hrv data derived from wrist sensors during sleep and rest are good and can be used to gauge recovery 

whoop does it 

polar does it 

suunto does it 

Oura ring does it (yes it’s a ring) 

garmins optical sensor can measure hrv at rest and it’s data at rest is good 

sure if the user does wear it too lose it’s faulty 

but that’s not garmins fault or problem

you can also wear a chest strap wrong

Vaya1989 said:

Im not talking about hR accuracy

Vaya1989 said:

nearly every higher end optical sensor out there is able to correctly measure hr during rest - where also hrv can be measured.

If the WHR accuracy is off for HR for the many reasons I mentioned, why would you thing any other measurement from the sensor would be correct?  HR is bad, but HRV, respiration rate, stress, sleep, SPO2 is correct?  How does one come to such a conclusion?

Vaya1989 said:

whoop does it 

polar does it 

suunto does it 

Oura ring does it (yes it’s a ring) 

garmins optical sensor can measure hrv at rest and it’s data at rest is good 

It's not a question of who does it.  It's a question of who does it accurately and just isn't spitting out numbers to appease the masses?  For years Garmin refused to record WHR while swimming saying they wouldn't do so because the accuracy was garbage.  Everyone else started releasing watches that did so, and Garmin caved to the competition and the masses that wanted the feature.  They didn't change their sensor.  They just added the feature to watches and the readings are still garbage with the WHR and swimming  They even state for accuracy, to use a chest strap while swimming.  Read their disclaimer about WHR and swimming.  So, the "everybody else is doing it" argument means nothing to me.  The WHR has come a long way in the past few years, but it still has a long way to go before the data can be used with a grain of salt.  Even if worn correctly by two individuals, the data for someone with and extremely dark complexion won't be as accurate as someone with fair skin.  It's a limitation of the technology.  The light passing through the skin will have a more difficult time on darker complexed people and the data won't be as accurate.  This is just one flaw using an optical sensor.

The data is NOT off at rest 

why should a heart rate measurement be off at total rest ? 
those optical sensors do a very good job while at rest and while sleeping. 

AT REST and while sleeping all this data is correct - ok SPO2 is a bit wonky on garmins end but the rest is good 

itw correct enough to spit out good hrv readings which athletes can use to gauge recovery 

it’s a fact - even a phone camera can do that 

on the HRV4Training website are several studies about this topic 

Vaya1989 said:

The data is NOT off at rest 

why should a heart rate measurement be off at total rest ?

Do complexions, body type and if a person is wearing their watch to tightly or loosely magically change at rest?