Battery life: real world burn rates vs specs

as usual, i'm coming at this from a perspective of having had the Forerunner 935 for more than 4 years. when i bought it, it was advertised as having up to 2 weeks smartwatch mode and up to 24 hour of GPS activities.

in the time i had it, i would say the 935 lived up to those specs and then some, even with me using a 3rd party watch face (JBlack) that displays seconds and HR at 1hz. even now at 4 years (still running FW13.00 which probably helps), i still see a roughly 4.5%/hr burn rate for GPS activity (1 sec recording, no GLONASS nor Galileo) and about 6+%/day for smartwatch mode (no notification alerts except for phone call). in the few instances when i was sick and inactive (not using GPS), it would always see a projection of 16 days of battery life in smartwatch mode.

the 945LTE has on paper, better specs than the 935 for battery duration under GPS usage, but i'm finding things to be significantly below spec. i admittedly only have a few hours of GPS measurements under my belt, but in similar settings as my 935, i'm estimating burn rate to be about 4%/hr which is about what i got with my 935 when new. nowhere near the 3%/hr that the 35 hours spec suggestions: . i don't see how i would get close to the 35 hour spec. perhaps, i will need to do a long duration, multi hour activity like a hike during my backpacking trip to get a more accurate numbers because it appears the updated version of the excelled BatteryMonitor widget seems to only round the reported battery percentage. (the old version on my 935 would report, perhaps somewhat inaccurately, the percentage to the nearest tenth)

similarly, the 945LTE, from again limited date, seems to burn through about 9-10% day in smart watch mode. so in this case, it will last less than my 935.

these aren't showstoppers by any stretch as the projected 24 hours of GPS will be enough for my backpacking trip and i can charge every 6-7 days rather than 8-10 days with my 935, but i'm a little disappointed.

i wonder if the battery capacity of the 945LTE is less than the 935, or perhaps the newer processor is a bit more power hungry.

i should note that i have PulseOx and wifi and LTE disabled, and while it's not an apples to apples comparison, i'm essentially running the same stuff (widgets and settings) as i am on my 935 but there are new things like the Body Battery that may or may not be using more power up.

what are your experiences? do you think the specs are legit? i know they say "up to"... i wonder if i should try a bare bones watch face with no seconds displayed and see what the basic burn rate is.

  • that's a personal choice. i went with the FR series because i didn't want the weight for running. if you want to be safe and don't mind the weight, that it sounds like you have a solution i was just giving you a a way to test whether the phone connection was the issue with you not getting over 30 projected hours with the 945lte

  • Seems like Garmin improve battery life in the last beta.

    Before the last beta, I had 10% burn rate in 24 hours without touching the watch, all OFF and airplane mode ON

    After the last beta, I have 10% burn rate in 24 hours with 2 hours GPS (airplane mode OFF, so should increse the burn rate)

    I'll continue testing.

  • thanks for your report. what watch face are you using to get the 10% burn rate with 2 hours of GPS in that day? that's a pretty great performance assuming about 5-6% went to the GPS use.

  • wow. then that is spectacular news since that watch face has real time (1 hz) seconds and heart rate data. that would imply a 4-5%/day smart watch mode which is what i would have hoped for given my experiences with my 935.

    i guess i may have to take the leap of faith and install the beta although hearing that the widgets are not very responsive has me currently wondering whether i want to risk my "mostly functioning as i need it to" watch for some fixes and other potential new issues.

  • Maybe I'm saving you a hassle, maybe bursting your bubble Derek...

    I've basically always used the watch face noted.  I use it with HR and seconds and I installed the 4.07 beta almost immediately.

    Before the beta I mostly saw 16+% / day with basically no activities (pulse OX on during sleep).

    With the same settings on the 4.07 beta I _feel_ like I am seeing a little better drain, but it's not obvious or dramatic.  Maybe 14% / day instead?

    My gut feel is that the BLE smartphone connection reliability is improved in some way and perhaps helping this slightly.  I say this as before the beta I also noticed my watchface often showing me a seemingly endless swirling sync indication that only went away after I opened the connect app manually on the phone and let it finish.

    One of my biggest frustrations is still that my 935 seemed to last much longer in smartwatch mode...  Hopeful they are at least looking at this.

  • thanks for the helpful datapoint . 's experience gives a little hope. i don't use PulseOX at night, so can't speak to that, but like you, it is frustrating that my 4 year old 935 lasted appreciably longer in smartwatch mode. i have not received word from Garmin about whether or not they are working on this or not. some other tickets i have submitted have at least gotten momentary attention, but i haven't heard any responses to my questions about battery life/burn rate.

  • After 7 days with the beta installed (from full charge to 5-6% left) I had the next one:

    Backlight on: 3'10"
    GPS: 9'
    OHR: 7 days (more, actually)
    ANT scan: 2'11"
    BLE scan: 2'29"
    Wifi/LTE/OX: nothing, I don't use it
    Music with headphones: 1'18"

    19 activities, 10 of them with GPS and 2 with power meter, HR band, cadence and speed sensor (indoor biking)

    Better than the last release. I think Garmin can improve it in the next months with next release. But this is the way Slight smile

  • Nevermind. It was an illusion. I have, again, burn rates of 10% in 19 hours, without using it .

    This is a bad joke Disappointed

  • sorry to hear...but i have noticed that the watch burns through more during the first 10% or so... ie, the battery meter isn't exactly linear. 

    i have recently switched to a watch face (Coros Like or something like that) that has a feature that allows me to disable the seconds and 1hz HR update on the watch face while i sleep. with that, i am getting about 7%/day burn rate for the watch face and as spec'd GPS usage of under 3%/hour.