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PM5 - Concept2 - Indoor Rowing activity

I have a 745. I am out of shape. I used to row a Concept2 in a gym a long time ago and liked it. I'm thinking of buying a Concept2 for myself.

I understand for some watches Garmin has Ant+ FE-C firmware upgrades, and now a Concept2 w/ PM5 will transmit all it's metrics into a Garmin Connect Indoor Rowing activity.

If this works for you, what are the limitations compared to using the Concept2 data ecosystem? What are the advantages of having your row be a GC Indoor Row activity.

I want everything. :) All the data and have it simply available on GC. I'm not looking for any particular metric, I want them all together and easily available on my profile with a simple sync.

What's your experience with your 745 and Concept2?

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chris_in_cal over 2 years ago +1 verified

I found it on Garmin Support Center page. It shows the 745.

https://support.garmin.com/en-US/?faq=rlynVxyyoq9dcSZGw5YFo8

How Do I Connect My Rowing Machine to My Watch?

Press and hold the Up button.
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+1 chris_in_cal over 2 years ago

I found it on Garmin Support Center page. It shows the 745.

https://support.garmin.com/en-US/?faq=rlynVxyyoq9dcSZGw5YFo8

How Do I Connect My Rowing Machine to My Watch?

Press and hold the Up button.
Scroll down and select Sensor & Accessories.
Select Add New.
Select Smart Trainer.
Begin rowing to wake up your trainer.
When found, select your rower to complete the pairing.

What Data Will My Watch Display?:

The following data fields are available when connected to a rowing machine:

Distance
Pace
Power
Stroke Distance

0 chris_in_cal over 2 years ago in reply to chris_in_cal

This is what Concept2 writes on their support page:

ANT+ FE-C for the RowErg

On some newer Garmin watches (such as the the Fenix 6), you can add the PM5 as a "fitness equipment (FE)" sensor. This allows you to use the "Row Indoor" activity with complete workout data. The PM5 can connect under Settings within "Row Indoor". It will connect with ANT+ FE-C as a new "Sensors & Accessories". You’ll need to reference Garmin support for your exact model and instructions. We recommend making sure your Garmin watch firmware is up to date. Workouts recorded with ANT+ FE-C will be included in Garmin’s Training Status but will not update to the Concept2 Online Logbook.

0 javy_tahu over 2 years ago

Using the ErgIQ connectiq app to start an activity with PM2 Ant+ FE-C yields biggest amount of data to be recorded. The only way, AFAIK, to also have HRV data integrated - I look at it in Runalyze which is setup to pull from Garmin Connect

0 chris_in_cal over 2 years ago in reply to javy_tahu

Thanks Javy.

So people with PM5 should use their 745 directly. And people with older PM2 should use the ErgIQ app, is that what you are saying? Thanks.

0 javy_tahu over 2 years ago in reply to chris_in_cal

I am saying that with all PM5, that can connect to 745, one should use ErgIQ

0 chris_in_cal over 2 years ago in reply to javy_tahu

Got it, you wrote "PM2" and I was confused.

Is the following true? "Both the ErgIQ and native 'indoor rowing' are equal, except the ErgIQ give Heart Rate Variability (HRV) data."

Is that what you are saying? Thank you.

0 javy_tahu over 2 years ago in reply to chris_in_cal

yes, sorry, I meant PM5 everywhere, not PM2

Yes, as far as I remember, mostly HRV, but to tell exactly, I will do a recording tomorrow with 745 plus ErgIQ app and plus the native Row Indoor activity, although I have my PM5 in ski mode

0 chris_in_cal over 2 years ago in reply to javy_tahu

Beautiful: an actual demonstration will resolve all the questions, thanks.

0 chris_in_cal over 1 year ago in reply to javy_tahu

Have you been able to compare these two? The app and native activity? Thanks.