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Suggested workouts - only base?

Hi there,

When I got the 745 a year ago, I followed the suggested daily workouts every day for three months or so. It worked like a charm, probably 80% base or recovery but also tempo runs, sprints, intervals etc the rest of the time. All eight types of suggested runs were being given. Even when I began running less, every other day or so, it still gave me meaningful mixed suggestions.

Then I had an injury and didn't run for months and didn't use daily suggestions. Now that I've started again, the 745 only suggests base runs and recovery runs, for weeks and weeks now.

I know that there should be a lot of base and recovery in the suggestions and that it might take a while to get in better shape, but this is not at all how it behaved last summer. I was in the same shape then (same VO2Max now as when I started last summer), and last summer it gave a lot of mixed suggestions which worked very well.

This seems like a bug to me and the last resort will be to do a factory reset or even delete my Garmin account if account history could affect whether it works or not. But I would like to avoid this, obviously.

Any suggestions?

A related question: It takes at least two ourdoor runs for the suggested workout feature to begin working. But after that, are there any requirements as to how many times a week or month or whatever I need to run for this feature to work? I know that there are a lot of other ways of structuring workouts apart from Suggested Workouts, but I really liked the feature when it worked and it was one of my reasons for buying the 745 so I would like it to begin working again.

0 Tiago78 over 2 years ago

There is a bug in Garmin training load and load focus,not only in 745 but in the new 55 series,no mater how many base training you do, properly,in zone 2 ,you are always in short low aerobic. That's why almost every suggested workout is on base training. I stopp following their new daily suggested workouts on 955 with a target for marathon because almost every run was recovery and base. And sometimes I saw some tempo runs in my week but a bad night of sleep make that workout disappear. At this moment Garmin is a mess,full of bugs and still launching new watches. They only see dollars,they don't care with the rest

0 Donal over 2 years ago

Are you doing the runs, to the suggested pace or HR, have a look at your performance condition after your runs. While I was getting over Covid, my performance condition scores were always in the negative, and it wasn't until I got some positive results, did my watch suggest anything other than base runs like yourself.

0 pinkfloydhomer over 2 years ago in reply to Donal

I am doing the runs to the suggested HR, performance condition is typically between 0 and 5, rare dips into negative.

0 pinkfloydhomer over 2 years ago in reply to Tiago78

Well, it used to work great. And if it didn't work at all, even on new watches, I think there would be a lot of noise about it. Garmin is advertising this feature heavily.

Also, it is SUPPOSED to be 80% base/recovery, that's perfectly normal. The problem in my case is that it stopped working as it used to,it used to give suggested workouts of all types eventually.

0 9824669 over 2 years ago in reply to Tiago78

Has this bug been confirmed somewhere or how do you know about it? I am asking because I have the same problem and I have not found a solution yet.

I am always short in "low aerobic" and even when I follow the suggested workouts with 90% base/recover runs at a low heart rate, the low aerobic score does not change at all!

0 pinkfloydhomer over 2 years ago

Okay, so yesterday I began fiddling desperately with various user settings in Garmin connect app and on the watch. I changed my weight a little bit, haven't touched it in forever. I switched back and forth between basing hr zones on lactate threshold and max hr, ending back on lactate threshold as before. I reset the hr zones and changed max hr and lactate threshold by 1.

All this in an effort to something in the Garmin suggested workout algorithm to wake up and work again. And lo and behold, this morning suggestion was a threshold run, for the first time in many months.

Garmin, fix your bugs!