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Linking to Wahoo Kickr V5 Sensors - what am I missing?

road_ie
over 3 years ago

I need some advice/help. I own a Fenix 6x and just purchased a Garmin Venu 2 for more general wear (smaller/lighter/brighter) and wanted to pair it with my Kick V5. However, the Venu 2 simply does not detect a speed/cadence sensor from the Kickr. I even used my wife's Venu 2s - and still did not detect any sensors. I then used the Venu 2 against a Tacx Neo and the Venu 2 immediately detected the speed/cadence sensor. I just get nothing from the Kickr. I used my Garmin Fenix 6x and it detects the Kickr unit (Trainer and Power). Since I know the Venu 2 will not detect a full trainer like the Fenix 6x - I at least assumed it will detect the speed/cadence sensor from the Kickr. Please advise if I am missing something? Can't be the Kickr as the Fenix 6x picks all up. Can't be the watch as it detects sensors from the Neo. This is confusing. Hope someone will offer some advise.  

  • 0 over 3 years ago

    I'm not familiar with the kickr v5, but by the looks of it does not transmit separate speed/cadence. Only trainer (FE-C) and power profiles are provided, and those are not supported by the venu2.

  • 0 over 3 years ago

    The V2 doesn't support trainers or power meters, so it won't (directly) support the Kickr.

    There may ve 3rd party apps that can connect to it though.

  • 0 over 3 years ago in reply to tmk2

    I am not so sure - this is what I get for the Kickr V5:
    Dual ANT+/Bluetooth Smart support, including ANT+ FE-C, plus power/speed/cadence broadcasting

    That tells me it should broadcast speed/cadence separately 

  • 0 over 3 years ago in reply to fallingrock

    Agree - but it should broadcast ONLY speed/cadence separately 

  • 0 over 3 years ago

    The Kickr V5 supports:
    ANT+ FE-C Control: This is for controlling the trainer via ANT+ from apps and head units, and includes speed/cadence data. 
    ANT+ Power Meter Profile: This broadcasts as a standard ANT+ power meter, with speed and cadence baked in as well. (WOUDLD THE VENU 2 NOT PICK THIS UP??)

    ANT+ Legacy Wahoo Trainer Contrl: Some older apps might still use this to control the Wahoo KICKR, it’s what Wahoo first started out on, but today most apps would use the FE-C variant.
    Bluetooth Smart Wahoo Trainer Control: This is Wahoo’s private method of controlling trainers, and includes speed/cadence data.
    Bluetooth Smart Power Meter Profile: This broadcasts as a standard BLE power meter with speed and cadence data.

    It DOES NOT however, support these protocols (which trainers from Tacx and Elite do support):

    ANT+ Speed/Cadence Profile: This broadcasts your speed and cadence as a standard ANT+ Speed/Cadence combo sensor.  Wahoo doesn’t do this for any trainers.
    Bluetooth Smart Speed/Cadence Profile: This broadcasts your speed and cadence as a standard BLE combo Speed/Cadence sensor.  Wahoo doesn’t do this for any trainers.
    Bluetooth Smart FTMS: This follows the industry standard Bluetooth Smart FTMS control, which is basically the Bluetooth variant of ANT+ FE-C for controlling trainers.  Wahoo doesn’t do this yet.

    Do I read this right:

    There is no dedicated speed/cadence broadcast - only included with Power meter and likely the reason the Venu 2 does not pick it up.

    Right/wrong?

  • 0 over 3 years ago in reply to road_ie

    Is it possible to use a Garmin Venu sq as a heart rate monitor for the kickr core? I just got a kickr and assumed it would sync with Garmin for this purpose but I'm not sure whether it does or whether it's based on the apps I choose to train with eg Strava or zwift or sufferfest. 

    Just bought it literally today so haven't had a good play around with the setup yet but at a glance didn't see syncing with my Garmin. For $1300 I'm really not keen to spend more money on a separate HR monitor when my Garmin does that perfectly.

  • 0 over 3 years ago in reply to 3068322
    3068322 said:
    Is it possible to use a Garmin Venu sq as a heart rate monitor for the kickr core?

    Even if you could, it wouldn't mater ... the kickr (core, 2017, 2018, 2019, whatever) doesn't care one lick what your heart rate is.  Only the training programs that you use your kickr with care about that.

    For the training programs you CAN use broadcast heart rate from your watch as long as the platform supports it.

    Currently this means only platforms that support ANT+.

    So you would need an ANT+ adapter for your Mac or PC for your training program to read your watch's heart rate broadcast.