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Can the Garmin Edge Drain a Di2 Battery?

Damian
over 1 year ago

can’t work out how to delete this,  but I now think the source of failure was water damaging the battery, as it happened again - maybe best to ignore all my waffle!

I have had a bit of a nightmare these past few weeks. Got myself a 105 Di2 upgrade, but less than 1 year old and the system would drain out within 48-72 hours, even if I wasn't riding the bike. Took the bike to my local LBS and said, the only thing I'd noticed was a warning message for the left shifter battery, which is strange as they should last up to 4 years. Thought nothing of it. The LBS also identified the left shifter as the component causing the drain and as the components were still under warranty, they sent it to Shimano tech for inspection.

Shimano tech said the shifter was working as expected and requested the RD, FD, Battery and Right Shifter be sent in too. They said it was the main battery that was faulty, odd? Updated the firmware on the components and sent back.to LBS, who ran tests and sure enough, no drain at all - all batteries showing 100% - this process however took nearly six weeks, six weeks no bike :-(

So I eventually get the bike back, very happy. Went home and then this is what happened, step by step

  1. Got the bike home, as said above, happy
  2. Charged my lights, charged my Garmin Edge 830
  3. Put the lights on the bike
  4. Put the Garmin Edge on the bike
  5. Turned on the Garmin Edge, immediately greeted  with an alert 'critical battery, left shifter'. W?!
  6. Checked the Di2 Screen on the Garmin Edge, left shifter RED, right shifter OK, gear at (80%, 4 out of 5 bars) WTF?!
  7. Checked 'maintenance' on Shimano E-Tube Project app, same as Garmin Edge status above 
  8. Switched batteries from right to left shifter, vice versa. No change on Garmin Edge, no change on Shimano E-TUBE project. WTAF?!
  9. Checked actual shifters by using the shift levers, left solid red light, right solid green light
  10. Has to be the Garmin Edge. So I removed the Di2 sensor from the Garmin Edge
  11. Checked the shift levers again, same as before, left solid red light, right solid green light OMG WTAF!
  12. Removed the batteries from both shifters, put the right batteries into the left, vice versa
  13. Checked the shift levers again, left solid green right, right solid green light
  14. Checked Shimano E-TUBE app, both green, great.
  15. Disconnected the battery in the seat post, to reset system
  16. Updated firmware on Shimano E-TUBE app
  17. Ridden into work and back today c60km, its been 48hours since doing all above
  18. No sign of battery drain at all on Shimano E-TUBE app
I don't know how the Garmin Edge was creating this death loop with the left shifter and the Di2 system, or even if that's technically possible, but it must have been the root cause. I have no doubt whatsoever if I'd have left the Garmin and Di2 connected I would still be experiencing parasitic battery drain over the next 48-72 hours, would have been on the phone with the LBS again, taking the bike back in without the Garmin and we probably wouldn't have been any wiser. 
 
Does this make sense, as this is what happened to me. I'd hate it to happen to anybody else or am very keen to see if its technically possible?!


Damian
  • 0 8 months ago

    I have a edge 530 that drains my di2 over night. Its turned off so how this is happening is a mystri to mr 

  • 0 8 months ago in reply to 6468781

    That is interesting. How do you know it is the Garmin that is causing it?  How old is the battery and what is the dI2 model?

  • 0 8 months ago in reply to RT1225

    I troubleshooted by unpluging one thing at the time. And when i removed my headunit, it looks like solved 

  • 0 8 months ago in reply to 6468781

    I don't have experience with this particular problem since I keep my bike in the garage and bring the Garmin into the house to charge it after each ride.  However, if this solves the problem for you, that is good news. 

    I checked around the web and found a couple of suggestions:

    - ensure the Garmin is fully Off rather than in Sleep Mode

    - ensure the E-Tube app on your phone is not connected to the Di-2 via Bluetooth after a ride

    - ensure that you have the latest updates for the Garmin and for the Di-2 (installed with the E-Tube app or bike shop)

    Hope this problem does not come back for you because a dead battery on Di-2 is no fun.

  • 0 8 months ago in reply to 6468781

    I have the same problem. For over a year now and visits to many bike shops no one has resolved it.  Ever since i connected to my Garmin 530 I have had battery drain issues. I have tried everything! I no longer connect and it still drains over a week if bike not used.  I have already plaster on this forum and there is nothing suggested here I haven’t tried to fix it… if u resolve please post how ! Thanks 

  • 0 8 months ago in reply to Anna kl

    My bike is only 2 years old

  • 0 8 months ago in reply to Anna kl

    The only thing that helps my problem. Is to fully remove the Garmin headunit and store it away from the bike when its not in use.