This discussion has been locked.
You can no longer post new replies to this discussion. If you have a question you can start a new discussion

Garmin Nav Fail

With various planned routes, my Edge 830 provides stupid guidance on a section as I return home.

While riding eastbound, my 830 prompts me to head north for one block, east for one block, south for one block, then turn back onto my planned route. Today I finally decided to follow the bogus Garmin prompts. As I was heading on the north leg I received the "Off Course" warning. WTF? It shouldn't matter when following a planned route, but my nav settings are avoid major roads (which it ignores by the way as it does route me onto the US101 which is clearly a major road), and use shortest.

1. The nav prompts do not follow the planned route. Why is this?

2. Why is the 830 routing me the wrong way when it knows it's the wrong way?

3. My next bike computer will not be a Garmin unless I'm given a free upgrade to a computer that does all that the 830 was advertised to do. What are peoples experiences with other bike computers? I'm primarily interested in Wahoo and Karoo. Bryton is a no go for me as it requires a phone to navigate...it's cheaper to buy a phone mount. 

  • Believe it or not, but bikes are allowed on the freeway in that area. It directed me to get on the 101 at Bates and exit at Hwy 150. Motorway falls under the Major Road category on OSM...Garmin should have avoided it. 

  • OSM has explicit bicycle lanes indicated for the freeway between Bates and Rincon road. That means the routing isn't using the freeway. The bicycle lanes are considered as separate "roads" (ways).

    The bike path doesn't exist for this segment. So, you are supposed to ride along the road in the legal direction (that is, with traffic).

    (I've ridden his more than once and it didn't seem that unusual to me.)

    ============================

    The "bicycles=yes" tag should override the "major roads" avoidance. "bicycles=yes" sort of indicates that the road is fine for bicycle riding.

    I believe Garmin treats "Major roads" as "bicycle=no" by default.

    The Garmin routing should not be using roads explicitly tagged as "bicycle=no" at all (regardless of the road type). "bicycle=no" is supposed to indicate a legal prohibition.

  • Garmin routes me onto the 101 freeway near the Santa Barbara County line when navigating to a saved location.

    If you are going north, this is working as it should.

    It's not routing you on the 101 freeway.

    It's routing you on the bicycle lanes that follow the freeway.

    The bicycle lanes are indicated as separate "roads" (ways) in Openstreetmap.

  • This does not address my original complaint that the Edge stupidly re-routes planned routes.

  • It wasn't supposed to. It does address another comment you made in this thread.

    I also addressed that issue (though, not satisfactorily). I also explained why you were getting the "off course" warnings.

    Do you have a link to the Ventura route?

    (Someone else had a similar problem in Ventura years ago.)