Bryton S800 launched with very interesting 3.4" screen and 830 price...

Looks good doesn't it....for me from what I've seen so far better than the 1030 plus and Karoo 2. I look forward to DC Rainamker's review 

pauloalexneves said:

and 1030 was never a possibility, I don’t want a tablet on my bars. Edge 1000 was for me the golden standard for size,

??? Why was the 1030 "never a possibility"?

The 1000 was released in 2014 for $600. The 1030+ is the same price 8 years later (so, it's cheaper in 2014 dollars for a much-better device).

Did/do you own a 1000? If so, then the reason can't really be the price.

1000 size: 58 x 112 x 20

1030+ size: 58 x 114 x 19

The 1030+ is 2 mm longer.

It can't really be the size (the extra 2mm doesn't make the 1030+ a "tablet" over the 1000).

Your numbers are 100% correct! Maybe at this time I could not even bare the size of the 1000. The 1030 just screams tablet to me. The size of the S800 is a whooping 9mm shorter with a .1” smaller screen. Electronics evolve, so I  expect Garmin to do the same. Moreover the S800 mount is closer to the bottom of the device, further enhancing its appeal, while on Garmin one needs a bigger mount for 1030 compared to 830/530. I believe the S800 can be perfectly used with my current mount, while the 1030 does not. 

People have different preferences but the 1030+ doesn't seem that big in use (and not really that different from the Bryton).

The Bryton is shorter. But 9mm isn't a lot shorter.

Bryton S800 size: 58 x 105 x 14.2

830 size: 49 x 73 x 21

For people with a strong preference for smaller size, the Bryton doesn't seem likely to be enough different (especially to dump a whole ecosystem).

I might jump ship just to no longer have the Virtual Partner.

Don’t get me wrong. I like Garmin analysis and features. I use them daily: cycling dynamics, light network, livetrack, radar, in the zone cIQ. 

The only thing I’m really missing is sensor connection reliability and font size. With 2.6” Garmin could have done a much better job in termos of font scaling, specially on message viewing while riding. When a grouptrack fellow enters the scene I am almost unable to read its name on top of the device. 

So, in my humble opinion, a 3.2 screen with proper font scaling and screen shade visibility would be a major reason for me to switch. To jump ship? Not so much convinced now that I seen some reviews and many rants over Bryton smartphone app. 

However, if Garmin just gives us a refresh on 830 with same form factor I am tempted to pass. I really need a bigger screen on a not so bigger device. As I mentioned I am not a 1030 fan, and the font scaling is still an issue on the 1030 plus too. 

Eagerly eating for the 840!

I added three Large Font apps to my 830 for HR, Cadence & Power. I really wish the same Dev would create some more.
They don't help things like pop-up notifications, but at least I can read my main screen data.

Barry

Good luck if you believe Bryton will be a true competitor to the EDGE with this unit. Their previous 'flagship' GPS was released only four months ago and needed a LOT of work. 

Bryton requires a link to your phone for navigation. How do you navigate when you don't have phone coverage? I frequently ride in areas without phone coverage. As I told the guys at Bryton - if I wanted to use my phone for navigation I'd save a lot of money by just buying a handlebar phone mount.

I wish they had a device that was competitive, but I won't consider Bryton to be competitive until they have a standalone unit.