How can I navigate to several destinations along the way or add stops?

Not the point at all! Read the whole thread. I was replying to someone who said "I'm always surprised when people expect these cycling computers to act like a car nav system." with that I don't think that's surprising at all because Garmin markets the Edge 830 as a navigation device. Navigation is the whole point of buying an 830 instead of a 130 or maybe a 530.

"Full featured" here means the ability to enter any destination on the device itself (without having to store locations or upload routes in advanvce), which the 830 does. All car nav systems have this, so in that sense the 830 works just like any car nav system. Then of course the car nav systems usually have extra car-specific features like I mentioned, not needed for cycle navigation. While the 830 has its Trailforks trail navigation features that the car navs most likely don't have.

The 530, for example, has navigation, but not full featured, since you rely on other apps or pre programmed routes or locations to navigate to where you want to go.

Of course, you could argue that "full featured" means it includes every single feature you could think of, but that's not what I meant.

And on to the point of this thread: When a device has full featured navigation (again, the stand-alone possibility to enter any destination on the device itself) I find it very strange that the simple menu choice of adding another destination or stop along the way when navigating isn't there. It's a very basic feature, and should be very easy for Garmin developers to add. It has nothing to do with car nav systems, I never mentioned car nav systems before someone else did.

So again: That specific feature isn't specifically advertised by Garmin, and I never said it was. I just think it is reasonable to expect such a feature from a company that has been doing navigation for decades. And it is just as useful for a cyclist as for a driver. Maybe it's not there on Garmin car nav devices either, I don't know. I haven't used a car nav device since Google Maps added full featured navigation, and mobile data became cheap enough that you didn't have to worry about the data traffic.

Cheers

Audun

audunth said:

The 530, for example, has navigation, but not full featured, since you rely on other apps or pre programmed routes or locations to navigate to where you want to go.

The 530 is just as capable as navigation as the 830 except that you can't put in an address to navigate to.  You can select the location of the address on the map (or any other point on the map) and navigate to it as a work around (you can do this on the 830 as well).

dpawlyk said:

I don't think every Garmin car nav unit lets you add stops whole navigating. Garmin certainly sells motor vehicle nav units with different features

I actually checked my Garmin car sat nav and I can do this on it.  I didn't think you could before. You can select a POI to add to the current route while navigating.  It is not something I would want to do while moving however as it requires menu navigation etc.

audunth said:

Of course, you could argue that "full featured" means it includes every single feature you could think of, but that's not what I meant.

That wouldn't be reasonable.

The problem is that "full featured" doesn't mean much.

And on to the point of this thread: When a device has full featured navigation (again, the stand-alone possibility to enter any destination on the device itself) I find it very strange that the simple menu choice of adding another destination or stop along the way when navigating isn't there. It's a very basic feature, and should be very easy for Garmin developers to add. It has nothing to do with car nav systems, I never mentioned car nav systems before someone else did.

You not likely you really know how easy it is to implement. It seems likely that you aren't considering all the factors the decision to add or not add a feature are based on.

Maybe, it's a simple omission.

Maybe, it's not a feature many people ask for.

Maybe, it's something Garmin decided wasn't worth the effort to program and test compared to adding other features.

Maybe, Garmin figures it isn't worth cluttering-up the UI for on a device some people complain is too complicated to use.

I just think it is reasonable to expect such a feature from a company that has been doing navigation for decades. And it is just as useful for a cyclist as for a driver.

I don't think it's an unreasonable feature. But, since it has never been in the units, it not exactly necessary. I suspect most drivers don't use the feature. It's something people can manage to do without.

The Touring introduced the feature of creating routes on the device by specifying multiple stops. I don't believe the later 1000 had the feature (I'm not sure). In practice, it was a pain to use on such a small device.

For the rare times you'd use it, you can stop the navigation and create a route that includes the new stop and the final destination. It's not that much harder to do than what you want. You might be able to make this easier to do if you remember to add the destination as a location ahead of time.

That might not be what you want but it gives you what you need.