How can I navigate to several destinations along the way or add stops?

audunth said:

Thank you, that was the feature I was looking for! Would have been nice if you could just easily add a stop along the way when in the middle of navigating though, like if you get hungry and want to find a shop or cafe nearby without cancelling navigation to your destination.

That said, why are you suprised that people expect a device to actually have the features advertised by Garmin??

I don't think that feature was "advertised by Garmin".

It certainly would be a nice feature but it's not exactly necessary either. It's not that hard to stop the navigation and navigate to your new lunch stop and then navigate to the destination.

If it's really "nearby", you might not even need the navigation to it.

Irrelevant. Car nav systems were not advertised as having the capability to display cycling metrics. The Edge 830 cycle computer is advertised as having the capability to navigate to POIs and other destinations.  Nearly 20 years on Garmin should have improved navigation algorithms. 

The Garmin 830 can navigate to POIs and other destinations, just like Garmin car sat navs.  You may want more POIs in the built in database as the ones it comes with may not be enough but you can say exactly the same about the POIs on my Garmin car sat nav.  Garmin can't include everything.  You can always add your own POIs.

I find the navigation on my Edge unit very similar to may Garmin car sat nav.  You can pick a destination to navigate to (saved location, POI, location from map) and the unit will navigate you there.  If you want to travel along a specific route you can create a route before hand and do this on the Edge units but it is harder forcing my Garmin car sat nav to follow a specific route but this is something I am a lot less likely to need to do in my car.

If you can, creating routes on line is better.

Having the option to use the device is useful when you can't use online planners.

On Android, at least, one can use your phone to create routes off line.

I do create routes online and then load them onto my Edge. I expect that the route will match my plan and it does not. For instance: I have a route that has me riding on the street and then making a left turn into a parking lot. When following my route the Edge guides me onto the sidewalk - not bike path - on the left side of the street about a half mile before my turn. There is a dedicated left turn lane where I panned my turn so there is no reason to cross the street and ride on a sidewalk against traffic.

I also expect that when the unexpected happens - say a road closure - that the Edge will help navigate around the closure. Telling me to U-turn and go back to the beginning of my detour is no help.

The new Edge 1030 plus has the detour navigation you want.

As for the sidewalk thing yes it is annoying.  It is caused by: the Garmin maps not marking ways that bicycles are not allowed on as restricted to bicycles and if you use maps that have the correct bicycle restrictions in them the Edge unit will ignore those restrictions.

The Garmin site says "Never get lost with turn by turn directions" and "POI database and the ability to enter addresses", which is exactly the core features of any dedicated Nav-device. I don't expect lane-assistance, speed limits, traffic camera warnings, live traffic or any otther car-specific features.

Whether the Edge 830 is a Nav device first and recording device second or vice versa, is entirely up to the customer, not up to you. As I said better navigation is the sole reason I bought it to replace my 520 Plus. The 830 is clearly more geared towards navigation than the 130 and 530 with it's touch screen and full-featured navigation. "Certain navigation aids" is what my Fenix 5 has.

My concerns are purely about user friendliness for the features that are already there, I'm not asking for things that the 830 can't already do on some level. And I found out how I can navigate to several destinations  (even though it's an unneccesary cumbersome workaround) which is why I made this thread.

I never said Garmin advertised the exact feature I was asking for. Garmin advertises the Edge 830 to have turn by turn navigation, a POI database and the ability to enter addresses, which is makes it i full-featured navigation device, so why wouldn't people expect it to navigate just like any car navigation device, but for cycling? Of course no one expects it to have car specific features like lane assitance, live traffic etc.

And stopping the navigation to navigate to another stop on the way isn't the same, because a big part of why I use navigation is to see my estimated arrival time. With the ability to add a stop at any time, I could easily see exactly how much time making that extra detour would delay my arrival to my destination or back home. Then I could decide if it's worth taking the detour or not. Also, often I use the extra stop to effectively choose which way I go to reach my destination. I live in the middle of the city, and to get to for example a lake outside of town, there are many different routes, and by adding one or two stops before the final destination, I could easily and quickly decide which areas of the city I want to go through on my way there.

Adding a stop on the go (with an "add stop" menu item) would be so easy it could be done while cycling (slowly in a non-traffic area of course), fiddling with creating a new route requires stopping and possibly getting cold, now that the temperatures are dropping.

I don't think every Garmin car nav unit lets you add stops whole navigating. Garmin certainly sells motor vehicle nav units with different features.

There are no standard features (beyond some basic things) for car nav systems.

So, "full featured" doesn't have any set or well-defined meaning.

In any case, it's moot. The devices have been this way forever. It's not likely to change anytime soon.