Both my laptop and main computer will not talk to the 830 using the supplied Garmin USB lead. I have had problems of this type before with my 810. I had rather hoped that Garmin would have sorted this dodgy software out before now. It seems a bit hit and miss to me whether you are going to get the Edge to talk to the dodgy program. With Bluetooth and wi fi both featuring 0n teh Edge 830 we should now be able to send routes to it via the ether instead of relying on access to a computer that has a USB that may or may not work the first, second or third time [with or without the lap button depressed for 30 secs, restarting etc] none of which have worked for me. Its a a thumbs down from me and wondering whether I should have bought aother product.