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GARMIN NAVIGATION SUCKS

7670777
over 1 year ago

Navigation Sucks BIG TIME!
I was riding a course yesterday. There was some road works ongoing on the planned route with really quick detour (I do know about it for a week, so no problem). 
After one kilometer I was back on the planned route and the GARMIN "NAVIGATION" was annoyingly showing MAKE A U TURN-- maybe for two minutes of riding on the planned route in right direction. Oh my gosh, really?  
And then even it pointed me in the wrong direction and started to showing Finish line flag with meters count down. LOL. I was for the first time in that location, so I just had to stop, open Garmin Connect app, look at the planned course( where you don´t see your location! 2nd LOL) so I had to open another map app to check where am I exactly and compare that with the course. Impossible just came true. I bought Edge 530 to get rid of the phone while riding. I bought Fenix 6  for that reason at first, but it was small and looking at it while riding was not convenient.
Rerouting is setup to minimize distance. It is not minimizing distance at all because of rerouting in nonsense ways.


What about your experience, is it the same, or (and) you´re ok with how it is working? 
Is it possible that some additional maps in device is causing this stupid errors in navigation? 
I´m about to find out. 
My guess is, there is no solution. The best solution would be put phone small as possible on the bars instead. There the navigation is much responsive and "smart":)
Did you try Komoot, somebody? Is it somehow better when you use it in garmin? 

Thx ya all

  • 0 over 1 year ago in reply to 7670777

    And you seem to be a guy who does not read manuals, doing things wrong and then blaming the device. I don't know what you are doing wrong.

    Think about it: If your problem would be a general problem everybody has, the forum would explode with complaints...

  • +1 over 1 year ago in reply to dpawlyk

     even though you drawn a route - the unit will try to adhere to the route as best it can but it still has to follow the rules of the underlying map - if there is something in the underlying map that prevents the unit from followingthe route exactly it will recalculate using the rules of the underlying map and joined back to your route as soon is it can. There could be kissing gates, or the cycling path is cut off by the road but in your mind you could ride straight through so u draw the route without factoring in these diversions. In practice The unit will have to divert to avoid these obstructions. so when it comes to these obstacles you'll see it will suggest re-route even though u have the route laid. it will join back to your route eventually, when the map allow it to.

    Extreme example - draw a route going along the opposite direction of traffic.....the unit will reroute to follow the rules of the road over the pink route.

    But yes - firstly to get anywhere near what you think the unit should be doing you must disable the recalculate function. Otherwise i promise you you'll be so frustrated you'll wanna throw it into the nearest bush.

  • 0 over 1 year ago in reply to Cristox

    Is everything you can write: Read the manual?

    Please, tell me, where is the secret in it, what I missed, so Im having these navigation issues? 


    Answer is: nothing: you have nothing to point me to in the manual. Prove me the opposite.

  • 0 over 1 year ago in reply to Big Lampar

    I´m using cycling map planner - So there should be no problem with following the rules. Exported to device using GPX file . 
    I am about to try to turn of recalculation and I even will have the Wahoo device to try and I´ll test them b2b. I think it will be interesting to watch how they behave with the same gpx imported.

  • 0 over 1 year ago in reply to 7670777

    Try the Garmin route planner if 3rd party route planners do not work for you.

  • 0 over 1 year ago in reply to Cristox

    It doesn't matter what route planner you use. They all do the same thing.

    What matters (some) is what map you choose when planning the route.

    Ideally, you'd use the same map that is installed on the device (the maps on the device are based on Openstreetmap/OSM).

    Most (if not all) of the planners let you choose OSM maps.

  • 0 over 1 year ago in reply to 7670777
    7670777 said:
    I´m using cycling map planner

    ???

    What exact website or program are you using? What maps are you using?

  • 0 over 1 year ago in reply to dpawlyk

    Mapy.cz 

    Komoot.com

  • 0 over 1 year ago in reply to 7670777

    There is no better option for our country (czech republic) than Mapy.cz

  • 0 over 1 year ago

    Here is my original planned route and recorded activity. Just example where it failed. 

    I had to take detour because of some road work and Garmin sent me at point 1 in the wrong direction.

    (Yes it tried to get me back on track, to the point where I left the route, probably)

    I realized that and turn around. Garmin was displaying OFF Course all the way to the point 3 and far more loger. It was KMs an d minutes of riding. This is not navigation in any term. Smart phone with cycling navi app would recalculate the route at the point 1 to the right direction minimizing distance and time, I´m pretty sure about that. I´ll try it again and compare Wahoo, Garmin and Smart phone app, as well as Garmin with different setting - recalculation turned off)