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Final conclusions regarding “Generated Road Hazards” - Garmin - fix it - firmware 24.18/24.19

Ch4rvel
3 months ago

While the introduction of this feature promised to be interesting, its current implementation is nonsensical. Why I think so:
- the inability to set the radius-detection radius of notifications - driving on the completely opposite side of multi-lane roadways, I am informed of the approaching danger. A threat that is on the opposite side and does not affect my driving in any way (I have illustrated this in the screenshot)
- Lack of possibility to delete erroneously placed warnings - despite repeated denial of the occurrence of the threat, the alert still exists - this should be done by voting - the number of confirmations vs. denials, and I get the impression that placing the appropriate category of threat is guaranteed to be displayed “forever” ( e.g. pathole category )

The first screenshot shows a situation where a placed danger point ( road works/surfacing - red spot/circle ) causes an alert to be displayed in a 250m radius. The only valid road for which it should display is marked in yellow, meanwhile the alert also displays when driving on routes marked in green.

The second screenshot shows situations where a hazard (highlighted in red) is detected while driving along the route highlighted in blue at the point highlighted in green - the alert displays because, after all, I will cross the road, then through a house/village to find myself on a parallel road which, incidentally, does not take me where I am going. Garmin, really?

It all comes down to one option that is not there: setting the threat detection radius, because 250 meters is far too much for city driving conditions.

  • 0 3 months ago

    I completely agree with you on this.

    (They better could have spent their time on making sizeable location triangles and sizeable fonts for map-data)

  • 0 3 months ago in reply to PaneVino

    Completely agree... As it is implemented now, it's more a distraction.

    I think the hazard warnings should only be shown when navigating with the device. 

  • 0 3 months ago in reply to Fireblader666

    I also fully agree here - a red banner with a beep for hazard 250 m left or right off-the-course is a major distraction, more than such hazard itself. Current Garmin's implementation of Hazard warnings is awful, it's missing such key parameter setting as proximity radius. Garmin must give users a possibility to adjust proximity based on their cycling environment, and even better - for each type of hazard (e.g. angry animal might be quite moving around within 100-200m, but the pothole on parallel street stays put) .

    I think this is just an example of Agile method of product development - throw new and raw feature in, let users play with it, tell if they like of dislike, then decide if invest more in development or not. I expect we'll see some tweaking of this feature in future FW updates.

  • 0 3 months ago in reply to DennisF

    Har!  Agile is not the adjective I would use.

  • 0 3 months ago

    I will add more comments:
    About a month ago, I marked two spots close to each other on a bike path where water and sewer work was being done. The bike path at this location was impassable, and one had to bypass the excavation with the sidewalk. After about a week, the work was completed, the path/bike path brought back to its pre-repair condition. Passing through this place, an alert pops up and right next to it a query asking if the danger is still present. I click “X” because it is no longer there. And this has been going on for 3 weeks now ( I ride this route at least twice a week - so at least 6 denials of the presence of the hazard) and what ? And nothing, they are still there.
    Garmin - as the AUTHOR of the notification my confirmation or denial of the existence of the threat should be PRIORITY. If I report it first and a week later it denies it, that means it needs to be removed. LOGICAL, RIGHT?

  • 0 3 months ago

    In the beta sections there were many suggestions to improve the hazard warnings and get rid of their bugs but the months came and went and Garmin didn't change anything. Even the completely useless warning if you move away from the hazard is still there, and it's not about dogs who could really follow you but about pot holes. In the end I disabled hazard warnings too, meanwhile there are way too many of them in our area and usually I don't encounter the hazard, it's just a space eater on the screen.

  • 0 3 months ago in reply to Ch4rvel

    I have the exact same situation. I reported a hazard for road works which I pass on my daily commute from and to work. So I pass this 10 times a week. Hazard has been gone 2 weeks, and I report this every time.... warning still remains.  Tottaly worthless.

    I pass thru an urban area, so warnings keep popping up all the time for no apparent reason.