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Advice from Fenix and Edge users

DanFreemanPhoto
over 1 year ago

Hi all, 

I've been a Fenix owner for many years, recently upgrading to a 7 Pro. I've also ditched my Wahoo and treated myself to a 1040. Now previously, I would log everything on my Fenix (and the wahoo but I never uploaded this data anywhere). So the Fenix was the sole recording device that uploaded to GC, TP etc.

I was hoping that with the 1040, I would simply record my rides on the 1040 (and leave the Fenix just as a wearable during the ride), and the 1040 data would overwrite the Fenix data on the watch, and mostly GC.

However, after a few days of riding, I've encountered the following issues....

1) Yes, the training load, status etc all sync from the 1040 to the Fenix without issue (and if I run with the Fenix, it transfers back to the 1040 too) BUT......stats like calories etc do not.

So after a four hour ride, the 2500 or so calories the 1040 tracked does not show on the Fenix (or GC). 

2) As the Fenix is just a wearable during the ride, my stress score is through the roof as I guess the watch just assumes I'm not doing anything but my HR is well over 130+. This screws up the training readiness etc.

3) The HR from the 1040 (with strap) does not overwrite the HR the watch recorded during the activity. I've had some rides where the Fenix didn't record the HR properly, and was 50bpm+ below the actual HR. But for that ride period, the watch sticks with that lower HR data on the watch and GC. Why is the data not overridden with the activity data?

I don't really want to leave my watch off for the ride, as I presume I'll have a gaping whole in the stats for the ride period.

So how do others manage this? Is this a bug/issue with Garmin syncing the data between devices still?

Thanks!

  • 0 over 1 year ago

    I don't wear my Epix during rides, and everything seems to sync fine. My Edge 1040 is set as my primary training device. Sometimes the 'training readiness' on the Epix switches to not using data from the Edge, but with a refresh or sync it fixes it.

  • 0 over 1 year ago

    Hi, I have similar observations as you. When cycling (I use the Edge 840), I turn off the heart rate sensor on the watch so that it doesn't bump up the stress levels.

  • 0 over 1 year ago in reply to Tomasz

    I use both the 1040 and the 7 Pro. To keep things simple the 1040 is not linked to wifi or my phone, it is just my visual display while cycling. I record all activities on the 7 Pro. If I mess up a recording on the 7 pro I then delete all other activities on the 1040 and sync it to Garmin connect, using that file as the true recording. works just fine, otherwise you get 2 recordings of the same activity.

  • 0 over 1 year ago in reply to scarboroughjohn

    I used to do that with my Fenix and Wahoo head unit. 

    I was hoping for a more elegant solution when using two Garmin devices :(

  • 0 over 1 year ago

    I have this exact problem and solved it in my case, Marq watch and 1040.

    first delete all totals on watch.

    Then when you ride and get home do not save your ride just pause, then sync watch, now save ride and the 1040 will sync and you’ll notice the watch will re-sync too. Then all totals are recorded.

    I found if you save 1040 and it syncs then you sync watch the watch seems to overwrite the 1040 data.

  • 0 over 1 year ago in reply to scarboroughjohn

    This is a good way to do it. I do something similar, but have my 1040 linked to wifi/phone. When I do a ride, I record the ride on both my Epix and 1040. When I'm finished, I stop both then save/upload on my 1040. After that is successful, I discard the Epix activity.

    The other good thing about recording on two devices (I actually record on four: Epix, 1040, phone, and watch) is that I have three redundancies for the activity, and one redundancy for the Garmin ecosystem activity.

  • 0 over 1 year ago

    The saga continues….

    Went for a 5 hour ride today, and turned the Fenix off. (1040 is primary training device).

    Eveything has synced on both, status, endurance score, even calories, but intensity minutes was not logged on the Fenix. Not sure what else I can do, apart from log the ride on both, but only upload on one device, which I was hoping to avoid.

    Oh well….maybe there’s still some kinks to be ironed out with TrueUp etc

    EDIT: ok the minutes have just synced, just took another sync from the 1040, then back to the watch. So it seems this will be the go to method then.

    The main disadvantage I’m seeing with leaving the Fenix on, but not recording a ride, is that the stress score goes nuts, as my HR shots up, but the watch thinks I’m not doing anything. Eventually, it seems to realise, but too late really.  And the intensity minutes get counted twice, as it seems to add from the Fenix and the Edge at the same time. 

  • 0 over 1 year ago

    Im new to the Edge 1040 and have only just set up it. Was previously on a 1030 Plus
    I found the following when looking into it:
    https://support.garmin.com/en-US/?faq=EjPECQK58qA0xzJ5X74vm7&identifier=731139&tab=topics

    "

    Which Device Should Be My Primary Training Device?

    We recommend choosing the same device for both your PTD and Primary Wearable, as it will give you the most unified experience across training and daily health data. For example if you have an Edge® 1040 and a Forerunner® 965, we recommend choosing the Forerunner as the Primary Training Device, as it will sync more frequently.

    What Happens When I Record An Activity On My Non-Primary Training Device?

    After the activity is uploaded by the non-primary training device,  sync the PTD with Garmin ConnectTm. The PTD will then compute the data for Unified Training Status. Sync the PTD with Connect to load the Unified Training Status. The next time the Non-Primary Training Device Syncs with connect, it will have the Unified Training Status. 

    If you click on the link there is an image showing this 

  • 0 over 1 year ago in reply to mrscientist

    Totally agree. I also record on Edge and watch and discard on the watch. This gives a good single recording on the training device (Edge) and does not mess up the health stats on the wearable (Forerunner in my case).

    From my observation the HR recording on the watch seems more reliable in the activity mode. Whether high stress is recorded during the activity or not seems to depend on the effort level. If I am touring or doing easy recovery rides, I record high stress. If I am doing proper training in at least base zone then I see no recorded stress measurements at all in those periods.

  • 0 over 1 year ago

    This is all fine and dandy, and I'm glad y'all are finding ways to save the data desired...but for the high end (aka high $$$) Garmin bike computer and watches, one would think these devices would be better at syncing data (even auto sync)...without jumping thru hoops...Come on Garmin, help us out!