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1040 Impressions

Navigation: for my first ride I created a course to test the navi. I was pleasantly surprised with it. As Komoot didn’t know the shortcut near us, I mapped the road route. However on leaving the house I went the shortcut way and it picked up the course, even the off-road trail that is not in the Komoot maps. I was impressed with that.
ClimbPro bar:  on my detour I had the map screen up. The ClimbPro bar showed I was climbing, when in fact I was descending. I realised that it was showing me the planned route and not where I was. That is crap from Garmin, they have to say “Off course, no data”.
Re-routing: I went several times off-course on purpose and it always picked up the way back to my route, albeit with the wrong ClimbPro. But it did take at least 50M to say “Course found”.
ClimbPro only works if you have a “course” running. I only created 80% of my route and once it was finished, there was no more ClimbPro for my big climb home. Garmin has the maps, disappointing that you have to set a course to see the climbs. Basically you have to know what you are going to do for it to work, that’s pathetic. Why do I need a course, and stick to it, when I know my way around? I often decide to go here and there on a whim.
Once you start a big climb you have a full screen showing the coming gradients & remaining distance. At times on this screen ClimbPro was in a position that was obviously false, it then jumped to the correct position, again pathetic. (I have set set the top GPS mode.)
Map screen:  was ok but the + & - icons permanently on the screen is a step backwards. On the 1000 you have to tap the screen for them or come up. In the 1040 they cover part of the map, that’s crap.
With the ClimbPro selected, you have a bar at the bottom of the screen that shows you the gradient, that’s ok, but when I was doing 4-5% it was still showing green, they need more colours or shades to give a real view. They also need to show the actual gradient in the bar, they have the info. 
Data field screens: are pretty good with the new font. It was clear even in bright sun. The brightness seemed to change well. Also choosing “the hand” to adjust the screen for map position or zoom worked pretty well once the glove had selected the option.
When it showed the “Turns” map it took 5-6 seconds to revert back to the original screen, that’s far too long.
I also see that the “Gradient” is still at least 50M behind the actual, that’s also crap.
Pause: At one point I stopped to see on the map which route I had planned. When you stop the screen shows the “Pause” screen over the map. That’s ridiculous, you can’t see the map. If you touch the screen it goes back to just the map, but after a few seconds, it reverts to the “pause” screen. I don’t think Garmin developers actually go on the bike in areas where they need to check the way! (This may be a setting, but I haven’t found anything yet.)
Temp:: Another big minus was the Temperature calibration. I went on my test today between 14:00 - 16:00 CET. According to Garmin, I had an avg. of 36C and a max. 41C. Over 40C is a deadly temp. I have done other comparative rides in the last week that showed a max. of 35C and these rides felt a lot hotter than today. Ma wife was out at the same time, and in the same place, with her Fenix 5, this showed a max of 34C. 
Battery: On the plus side, the battery is currently amazing. I think I left with 96% and after over 2hrs I returned with 94%. So all the pathetic comments on the web about, “oh wow Solar great”, should get a sense of reality. Solar is a ***king waste-of-time gimmick, especially when other hardware requirements such as LTE, that should have been prioritised, were ignored.
Training & Power stats: I didn’t have any of these screens defined as I am fed up with wearing an HR Monitor and do not have Power Meter pedals. I am also not interested in all this stuff into which Garmin has invested a lot of time & effort. (I think all the health & training “features” are there basically designed to sell the Power-Meter pedals.)
In summary: all the professional websites are touting Solar…Solar…Solar. How many people will outlay the extra for it, especially with current, excellent, battery performance?
- Also all these sites also blab on about the Training; Health and other Stats. They all, of course, have the Power Meter pedals. How many of your average riders have that and are also prepared to wear an HR Monitor in 35C temps. These things are all great for some, but at what expense to other features for all.
- Too many things are still too slow to respond, many no better than my 1000. Garmin needed to up the processor chip, which apparently it is the same as the 1030+, which is in turn 2 years old. A brand new top-of-the-range bike GPS needs a up-to-date processor.
- Whilst the screen appeared to be pretty good I have not been out where I actually need the map. I wonder if the resolution will be good enough in unknown places where I want to see detail. However, it is again years behind modern standards and is something that should have been updated.
- The screen real-estate should also have been increased by reducing the bezels. Even a few mm would have been an improvement without negatively affecting the stability of the unit.
- The Navigation appears at first ride to be very good. This is the main reason for me to spend this amount of money, but time and uncharted territory will be the real test.
  • Your post could be very useful for people to decide wether they need the 1040 or not. But some of your complaints are not unique to the 1040 alone, and have a background.

    Many of your complaints have been around the block for ages since the 1030, they have a reason, and they have been discussed in the forums ad nauseam. Such as the inaccurate temperature readings due to the limitations of the small housing being exposed to direct sunlight and other elements, or the delay with climb % due to averaging versus “ % jumping all over the place”, or the delay with the turns screen due to the possibility of in accurate location in forests and highly built op areas. All technical choices for which it’s impossible to find better solutions without increasing the cost of the device dramatically.

    It’s logical that Climb Pro only works when you program a route. There are plenty of climbs where you can take a left or a right turn half way through and suddenly it becomes another climb, with different parameters such as distance and % remaining. How should the Climb Pro know when and where you are going to turn without a route planned in advance? By the way, you can still use the ‘Elevation’ data screen without climb pro. It also shows slope steepness in colors and percentages from map data, and it would even adapt itself after you take a turn on a climb.

    And concerning heart rate monitors and power pedals. The fact that you don’t need them and don’t like them doesn’t mean that other people also don’t need them.

    Why so aggressive about the solar version? Its okay if people want to spend their money on it, and nobody has to buy it if they don’t want to. The choice between the two versions is there for everyone. By the way. When I go on a multiple day cycling trip with my tent I would find the solar version quite useful, finally no longer the need to add a battery pack to the baggage.

    Otherwise, I strongly agree with some of your points, I also find the grey screen with auto pause pretty annoying, and I was also hoping for a slightly larger screen with a higher resolution.

    Just a thought, you seem to be complaining a lot about functionality you don’t seem to be interested in. If you only got it for navigation one might wonder if this is the right device for your requirements?

  • On the subject of going off course deliberately. Did the unit recalculate the route back to the point you went off course or did it navigate to your original route further ahead...like a car sat nav would?

  • Thank you for your post.

    Pause screen is annoying.

    Delay of screen returning after pop-up is too long.

    Power meter has helped me pace myself, realize the effect of position on the bike, and maximize pedal stroke. These have helped change my riding for the better.

  • Yes it went ahead. However, in the cases mentioned, the route ahead wasn't very far a matter of 200-300M. I also didn't notice it say "Off-course", it just came up the S/W buttons to "Pause" or "Re-route". There was no "Make a U-turn" or "Go back to route". I didn't touch anything and after a few seconds it just re-routed forward. It did this before I could really think about it. It would good if you define a delay while you ponder what to do. There should be a third button option "Return to route". 

  • If you want to have climb pro while you deviate the course, you can always tap on "back to start",  and climb pro will be generated 

    With some of the other I tent to agree, with other I dont 

    Is good to have real feedback with specific things that garmin can fix and not complaining in general

  • I was reviewing the 1040, not the 1030+. I did expect it to have improvements in these areas over my 1000, unfortunately it hasn't. As to cost, Garmin didn't stint on that for Solar or all the other Training features and the device is expensive. I can see they may have a problem with barometric pressure delay, but not with the GPS.

    "... the possibility of in accurate location in forests and highly built up areas" - I was in open country and using full the GPS mode which Garmin touts as working under these conditions..

    As too it being logical that ClimbPro doesn't work without a route, tell that to Hammerhead Climber developers. However, I do think Garmin may upgrade ClimbPro to match Hammerhead in the future.

    As for Power-Meter pedals, the vast majority of Garmin users do not have them. As I stated, for some they are a valid upgrade, but Garmin has invested a lot of time/effort and inevitably money for the minority, thus "increasing the cost of the device dramatically".

    As for Solar, I do not think the full price of development has been passed onto those buying it, which will again be a minority. My opinion only, but I think this has increased the cost of the device for all. You should also read some of the reviews from the UK. One guy did some good tests of Solar. On one ride he went out in peak sun times on a 2+hr ride and got 3 extra minutes, cloudy day. Another daytime ride, but with setting sun, he got zero. which he put down to the sun not shining down almost vertically on the device. He never got the touted 20mins/hr or anywhere near it. But what annoys me most about Solar are those stating how Eco it is and "never charge a device again". It is these idiotic statements that has got my goat. The battery appears to be incredible and for days long trips will suffice, even in normal mode, let alone battery saving mode. My battery at 100% actually states 43hrs, of course this may descend some once out on a ride. Back that up with an emergency $10 charger (which today weigh grams) and which will do the phone as well....

    Summary again:

    I think a lot of users expected an epic upgrade, there was even speculation that it wouldn't be called the 1040, but the 2000. Those users, including me, have been disappointed. Several reviewers are advising not upgrading and staying with the 1030+ or getting a bargain basement one. 

    All-in-all I don't think Garmin has covered itself in glory, however due to the much better navi, it is a vast improvement to my 1000. 

    (And a final moan, why do I only have 32GB memory? It's probably Ok as I have 18GB free (US map was deleted), but I only have 8MB for Apps.)