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Timer Format Change

It appears the format for the timer field has changed. On the 1030 it would show minutes and seconds until an hour was reached, then show hours and minutes. On the 1040 using a half row sized field, once it passes an hour it shows hours as a small superscript (which I have a hard time reading), then minutes and seconds. I don't find seconds a very useful metric once I've passed an hour of riding. Unless I'm missing something, it would be nice if there was an option to change the timer format back to what is used on the 1030.

  • I recently upgraded from a 520 to 1040 and was very confused by this behavior. I just tested that to be sure and the 520 still works the same as the previously described 1030 behavior - i.e. starts with an MI:SS format for the time and then switches to HH:MI when you pass an hour.

    It's kind of silly that this isn't customizable on a $700 device. I much prefer the behavior of the 520 as seconds is useless to me for elapsed time.

  •  Hi all,

    I had a night off and decided to make a CIQ field (named it OldTimer) that shows the timer format in the old way.

    As long as you are under the hour, the timer shows mm:ss (examples: 1:23 or 42:23);

    When you cross the hour, the timer shows hh:mm (examples 1:01 or 62:45; congrats if you reach that).

    It was really easy to make, even for me, except for a small problem.

    The updating of a CIQ field is not predictable. This means that the value in seconds that is shows can differ 1 second with the actual timer for about half a second.

    If you do not bother about this, I can upload the field to the CIQ store tomorrow.

    If you insist on having the exact value shown, I expect that will be beyond my programming capabilties.

    I will post some more screenshots tomorrow (going to bed now, don't want to wait for an hour to show the effect with the Timer field and OldTimer field next to each other).

    Oh, and I have chosen not to use a zero in the first part (1:23 instead of 01:23). This is like the current Timer field. If I have to change this, plz let me know.

  • I don't know why Garmin is such bad at display big fonts !!! Indeed old timer where better thant 1040 one.

    And by the way, all the fonts on edge should use more space to fill datafield for great readability. There is too much wasted space for nothing in datafields !

    Look at Wahoo fonts !

  • The app (OldTimer) is now in the Garmin CIQ-store.

    Personnally I like the new timer field, but then I am not out for more than 4 hours and I have not (yet) problems with remembering how many hours I am riding. But I understand the eyesite problems and always happy to learn and help.

    Hope you like the app!

    Any suggestions are welcome, I will do what is within my limited capabilities to accommodate  them.

    Link to the app store: https://apps.garmin.com (search on OldTimer).

  • THANK YOU. Will try today!

  • I think this is fantastic; can't figure out why Garmin can't do something seeming this easy, Only feedback I have is the name...  I am old and this solves a problem for me, but I don't really like being reminded of that every time I look at the field name. Maybe something like "AltTimer" or "Timer2"???

  • Haha, I am so old I can't read the labels, so your problem will be temporary ;-)

    But I understand. I have used google a bit and see it is possible to have settings configured in the phone App (GCM) for a CIQ datafield. I will read on and see if I can make that option for you, so you can set the label yourself. My programming skills are from 1982, so it will take me some time to understand how it works. Hopefully this weekend. If this fails, I will change the label to "AltTimer". In German "alt" means "old", haha (I am not a German, just happened to know this).

  • Lunch time was enough, new version uploaded! You can now make a choice out of a list of 2: "AltTimer" or "OldTimer".

    I tested changing via Garmin Express, that works, the field label changes. Should be possible via GCM as well, but have not yet found out how.

    Thank you, was interesting to learn how this works.