Can anyone report if Garmin have fixed the issue that the 1030+ has with ridiculously long responses to changes in gradient?
Can anyone report if Garmin have fixed the issue that the 1030+ has with ridiculously long responses to changes in gradient?
Thank you for sharing your concerns about the undesirable lag in road grade. We want to share that we have a plan for an improved solution with consideration of both accuracy and responsiveness. Our engineers…
@Garmin-Mathew.
If you really believe that 10-15 seconds delay is considered “normal” - as the official statement from Garmin is trying to force-feed customers, then what does that say about my Edge 1000…
I currently have a wahoo element (full size) a karoo2 and now a 1040 solar. as of the 12.14 release the 1040 solar still has a ridiculous lag as compared to the other two. I really don't care too much…
Sensible Grade sounds like a nice solution. Any way to ask the developer to add support for the 840? Won't let me download it or leave a review without a compatible device.
I just did a review asking when it will be available for the 540 and 840.
“Here's the deal. Complaining on this page does absolutely NOTHING!!! If you want to actually be a heard then you need to go here https://www.garmin.com/en-US/forms/ideas/ and flood them with this issue. I have sent a few regarding this but more needs be sent.”
Done !
Btw, for me it is pretty obvious that this is a software "problem".
According to this page Barometric Altimeter Accuracy on an Edge Device | Garmin Customer Support the barometric altimeter have a precision of 3 meters with every measurement.
Seems to me that Garmin is using a very long smoothing period to avoid completely wrong measurements.
I'm not saying 15s is a good value to use as a smoothing period.
But what could happen in worst case if they calculate gradient every second? It could be that on even a flat road while riding 10km/h it would show a gradient of 220%.
Every two seconds: With 10km/h the worst case would be 111% in worst case.
Let's do 5 second: 44%
10 seconds: 22%
15 seconds: 15%
On a flat road! Just because of the precision of the barometric altimeter!
This is also what DCR has posted on his blog. Garmin is sometimes slower, Karoo is often quicker, but Karoo is also more often showing the totally wrong gradient.
And as Sensible Grade does, it would be nice if Garmin gives the option to choose the smoothing period. So people could choose to either have a fast calculation or a correct calculation.
“The reason is simple. As Ray said, he hasn't seen the problem and gradient works fine for him. Which is also what the vast majority of the users also thinks. Which is why Garmin doesn't do much about it”
Does not make any sense. It’s so blatantly obviously laggy - but not for DCR? Makes one wonder his methodology… or motivations.
makes no sense that he doesn't have this issue when all of us do. let's go garmin...