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ClimPro

olieman

I use Mapsource (or Basecamp) to make my course, using a map with elevation data. The climbs are correctly identified and listed by the 1030. Just before the start of a climb the ClimbPro screens pops up and shows the graph of the gradient and other data. So far so good. At the actual start of the climb the graph of the gradient disappears and just the numerical values of the remaining distance and percentage are shown.

The only way that ClimPro works as it should be, is to convert the route (= gdb file) to a GPX file using Basecamp or another program. A GPX file is not easy to change, while a GDB file can be easily adapted to ones needs using Mapsource or Basecamp.

A DEM map is present in the 1030, so it should be possible to show ones position in the graph of the gradient, When can we expect un update of ClimPro?

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    Since Mapsource and Basecamp are no longer being updated, could it be that they are no longer compatible with the 1030? I've made routes in Ridewithgps and Climbpro works as it should. I'll try a course made in Basecamp.

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    You can't use gdb files on the Garmins. It's very-much a BaseCamp/Mapsource format.

    You can export as gpx, tcx, or fit from BaseCamp (the Edges can use any of these three formats and they all work the same.

    While BaseCamp isn't actively being updated, it's not incompatible with the 1030/1030+ (but the "send to device" might not work).

    BaseCamp can read gpx, tcx, and fit files just fine. You don't really lose much by not having the file in gdb format. You can keep the track in BaseCamp if you prefer having it in gdb format (which is what BaseCamp uses to store stuff). But there's not much of a reason to use that format for separate files outside of BaseCamp.

    If you have a DEM map in BaseCamp, BaseCamp should write the elevation data to the gpx, tcx, or fit files.

    I believe that, at the moment, ClimbPro need the elevation included in the file.

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    Basecamp and Mapsource send FIT files to the 1030 (and all previous Edge models). I don't know whether these files contain height information, however, ClimPro does display just before the start of the climb the correct graphical gradient (on the basis of its DEM?), so why not during the climb?

    The advantage of using Basecamp and Mapsource is that you can change a course with just a few mouse clicks and drags.

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    It's easy to change courses in the web based planners. BaseCamp is fussier to use than the web sites.

    BadeCamp still should work for this (so, I'm not trying to discourage you from using it).

    The data in the gpx, tcx, and fit files is the same.

    BaseCamp shows the elevation in the track properties.

    Gpx and tcx are text. It wouldn't be too hard to look at them to see if the elevation data is included.

    The files produced by BaseCamp are not different than the files produced by RWGPS. ClimbPro should work the same for both. ClimbPro worked for me. I haven't tried it recently (so, maybe, it's broken?).

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    Basecamp is indeed fusier to use, therefore, I prefer Mapsource. Additional advantage is that you can install and use different maps, some are better for hiking and mountainbiking, others are more suited for road cycling.

    Basecamp works well for ClimPro if you convert your course to a 'crumb trail'. 

    Which web based planners afford easy modification of existing (=stored) courses? I did not find them.

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    I used Mapsource for routes years ago but switched over to Ridewithgps because I think it has far more features that make route planning easier. Very easy to upload and modify existing routes. I particularly like the ease of downloading a Ridewithgps route into the 1030. Give Ridewithgps a try.

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    olieman said:
    Basecamp works well for ClimPro if you convert your course to a 'crumb trail

    The Edges require a track file (what you are calling a "crumb trail") regardless of the source of the file. (That is, this has nothing to do with BaseCamp).

    olieman said:
    Which web based planners afford easy modification of existing (=stored) courses? I did not find them.

    Which ones don't? Any of the web-based planners I've tried are easy enough to use.

    Additional advantage is that you can install and use different maps, some are better for hiking and mountainbiking, others are more suited for road cycling.

    You can install maps for BaseCamp too. There are a still some good reasons to use BaseCamp/Mapsource. "Ease of use" isn't one of them! (I haven't used Mapsource much; BaseCamp has some reputation of being harder to use than Mapsource).

    RWGPS lets you use different maps (it won't necessarily have all the ones you want). Most of the planners give you options for a couple/or a few maps.

    I use BaseCamp as a way of comparing courses.

    I wrote a utility for BaseCamp/Mapsource.

    sites.google.com/.../bc2ge