Yoga profile Stress Graph

I was thinking about installing the latest beta, but the issues scared me off.

I need ONE thing only. Could someone check if the yoga bug has been fixed yet?

Basically, if you run a yoga activity, the main stress graph (not the one inside that activity) gets marked as active. And it's not supposed to be with Yoga. This is correct on all other watches I know of released after October 2019, just not Instinct 2 series. This is very important to me and a lot of others, and I've been waiting for it to be fixed since I got the watch (November 30).

https://forums.garmin.com/outdoor-recreation/outdoor-recreation/f/instinct-2-series/324909/yoga-bug

  • This is not the same as any other Garmin. Stress is recorded during the activity. I have it live on my watch r ight now 

  • Off topic: Can you explain in a separate post on the forum how to get body battery data field inside Yoga? That's not standard as far as I know on Venu 2 or indeed any watch series. Very useful! Put it in the Venu forum. Or if someone else knows how? I have heard of it before. It's an app, I believe, and you can probably add many other things as well.

  • It's a Venu, not Venu 2 so not sure if worth adding to that forum?

    But briefly I downloaded this custom data field from the Connect IQ store then followed the instructions for editing the data screen within the yoga activity settings. 

  • This is not the same as any other Garmin. Stress is recorded during the activity.

    Yes, I believe you, but the it is completely useless since you cannot get any accurate HR Variability data from an optical HRM sensor when you are active. It may work for yoga, but it is just a useless generator of random data once are just little bit active. So you may find it invaluable, but in fact it is just a placebo having no other effect than making you happy that you get some (fake) data.

  • I tended to forget to turn it off, so it generated a lot of useful data for me that would otherwise be lost. You can't wrap your head around how it can be useful. That doesn't make you right.

  • I agree with the OP. I don’t understand why I need to wait 10 minutes of inactivity to have an elevated heart rate alert go off. There are cheaper chinese watches and fitbits that allow alerts sooner and during activity.
    Garmin could do so much better when it comes to this as well as sleep tracking. The sleep tracking for length of time is atrocious and taking naps is non existent… but that’s another story.

    Garmin can cater for surfies, truck drivers, pilots but for some reason is happy to miss out on a massive market of sufferers of post viral fatigue issues, long covid, ME CFS who use “pacing” as a form of exercise and would benefit from the feature that the OP is talking about. And no it doesn’t need to be a medical device. Every fitness watch has a disclaimer to that effect. We are talking about a function that has been available on other garmin watches but for some reason is missing on the Instinct 2. 

  • Not true. 

    It's the same data that is shown within the yoga activity data after the activity is finished. Literally the same data. 

    I can tell you this following over 2yrs running a yoga activity constantly for 12-14hrs a day.

    I can match my graphs later and they are the same. I also have stress as a widget, and it matches the same readings.

    It's perfectly acceptable that you do not know about this it's not useful to you for your purposes and not something you have considered before today, and that's totally fine, but do not tell me how something is functioning when I have it on my wrist with upwards 9000 hrs of data

    Maybe I should add for clarity that I am mostly bedbound and walk less then 2500 steps a day. I am very sedate. I'm sure if I was active as a normal person moving around, I running up and down stairs, and vacuuming etc then those stress graphs would have big gaps in.

    However I can tell you that there is a sizable cohort of similarly affected people who find this incredibly useful.

    The point of this post is all the watches do what we need, and but this one model doesn't. The OP wants that fixed for this model. I also think that stress levels during yoga may well be very useful to many yoga users

  • That doesn't make you right.

    There are countless documents telling the same thing. You do not have to believe me, just get some info from other sources. For example this one: Why Watches and Wrist HR Monitors Usually Don't Work For HRV - Elite HRV Knowledge Base

    There is no affordable hardware or sensor on the market that can measure accurate HRV from the wrist, arm, or hand using optical sensors or PPG while you are moving. You must remain still (within reason) to accurately measure HRV using that technology in those locations on the body. For those watches with a built in HRV function, if you'd like to try measuring HRV with them, you'd need to do a manual measurement, holding your arm and wrist as still as possible. 

    Or have a look at the more serious scientific study Accuracy of heart rate variability estimated with reflective wrist-PPG in elderly vascular patients - PMC (nih.gov)

    Optical heart rate monitoring (OHR) with reflective wrist photoplethysmography is a technique mainly used in the wellness application domain for monitoring heart rate levels during exercise. In the absence of motion, OHR technique is also able to estimate individual beat-to-beat intervals relatively well and can therefore also be used, for example, in monitoring of cardiac arrhythmias, stress, or sleep quality through heart rate variability (HRV) analysis.

    So, yes, you get your stress data (based on the HRV) if you use the Yoga activity, but the data has no relation to the reality, as long as you do not stay still. Never mind, if the fake randomly generated stress data makes you happy, finally why not. Just do not expect that everyone want to be fooled in the same way.

  • You seem to not believe in body battery and stress. Garmin is very proud of this, and it's why a lot of people choosw Garmin watches. The logical conclusion of your arguments would be for Garmin to scrap the whole thing.

    I want to tell you about a GP who wrote a book about HR measuring and HRV. He used an Oura Ring, a Whoop band and a Garmin watch while he wrote the book. He ended up recommending Garmin. He sports a Fenix 7. Instinct 2 is the cheapest watch that includes HRV Status in many markets, including mine. And with 10 ATM instead of 5, it's the perfect watch for a lot of people. We just need that one little thing fixed!

    You can find the doc on Instagram. dr.torkil. But he writes in Norwegian, and his stress levels are often off the charts. Much more than most healthy people. Even so he finds his watch very useful.