My day - Garmin's math - intensity minutes

1 day - 552 intensity minutes

Is it difficult to achieve this ? No !

Because you earn intensity minutes, although the prerequisites for this are not met:

So all over again :


Garmin's instructions say that intensity minutes are most accurately recorded when you start an activity.

Okay, so I did.


Since I walk a lot during the day, I started the "walking" activity when I got up in the morning because I wanted to record the most accurate intensity minutes possible.

From the time I got up to the time I went to bed, a good 18 hours passed.

Here is the result:

552

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Can this be true at all from a mathematical point of view ? NO !

Here the data :

My maximum HR is 196.


In Connect, I have "Use heart rate zones" enabled.

For "moderate" I have set zone 4 (so 80-89% HRmax = 157 - 174 ).

For "vigorous" I set zone 5 (so 90-100% HRmax = 175 - 196).

Thus, if I have calculated correctly, intensity minutes should not be earned at all until a HR of 157.

Ok, here is the heart rate graph:

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Here again via screenshots my settings for intensity minutes in Connect :

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Summary :

During my 18 hour recording, I spent just 4 seconds in zone 4 and 0 seconds in zone 5.

HOW can it be then, just mathematically, that I have earned 552 minutes of intensity ?

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Funny that my tactix 7 pro didn't capture nearly as much intensity minutes. And that, although Zone 2 and 3 is set there.

I can assure that this is not a problem of a particular firmware or sensor hub. The problem exists with all FW versions I have tested so far. Also in the current one. Both, master reset and soft reset do not change anything.

This is a topic for the development department. Not for the support.

Because what should the support do if the watch does not respect the rules of mathematics ?

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  • It is a known issue that the IM detection by HR Zones does not work, and the default method using the Resting HR for calculating IMs is used regardless of your IM and HRZ settings. So if your 7 days avg. Resting HR is 40 bpm, any minutes spent over ~60 bpm will be counted as IMs.

  • It is a known issue that the IM detection by HR Zones does not work

    If this is a known issue, Garmin should fix it.

    Obviously a developer has overlooked that we have a setting in Connect to set HR Zones.

    So if your 7 days avg. Resting HR is 40 bpm, any minutes spent over ~60 bpm will be counted as IMs.

    Yes, I have also tried the automatic method. My 7 day average is 59.

    Completely exaggerated values for intensity minutes. Many times the intensity minutes I had with my tactix Delta and also many times the intensity minutes I currently have with the tactix 7 pro.

  • Hi trux,

    I am not so sure. Seems that on my Venu2 the HRZ settings work ok and IM are counted quite accurately.

  • Seems that on my Venu2 the HRZ settings work ok

    yes, the intensity minutes of my tactix delta and tactix 7 pro are also calculated correctly, and it respects the HR zones setting there. But here we are talking about the Instinct 2, and there the setting of the HR zones in Connect is obviously completely ignored. This is a problem that needs to be fixed.


    Maybe it's just a small program line that has to be set from "false" to "true".

  • Seems that on my Venu2 the HRZ settings work

    This is Instinct 2 forum, and the issue where the IM/HRZ Zone setting has no effect on Instinct 2 was discussed many times here. Other models (may) work fine.

    Instinct 1st gen had no such setting, and they may have forgotten enabling the functionality, although they enabled the setting. Not sure whether anyone reported it in the bug section of the Beta Program forum, or directly to the Support. If not, then it may take a time before they notice it themselves.

  • and they may have forgotten enabling the functionality, although they enabled the setting.

    Yes, I assume so. It was probably different teams that didn't coordinate. The developers of the FW may not have known at all that the Instinct 2 should get this function.
    However, this gives me hope that the problem will hopefully be recognized. And I don't think it should be that hard to fix it, since this feature probably only needs to be enabled. As I said, from "false" to "true".

    Not sure whether anyone reported it in the bug section of the Beta Program forum

    Yes, I did. Additionally, I sent an email to the beta team.

  • Not sure whether anyone reported it in the bug section of the Beta Program forum, or directly to the Support. If not, then it may take a time before they notice it themselves.

    I ask anyone who can relate to the problem to report it.

  • Update 04/18 : instinct 2 Solar tactical 12.13 Beta -

    BUG still remains !