During a hike activity, how does one directly route to a saved location anymore?

Last week I tried the Spencer Meadows National Recreation Trail, which is absent from all Garmin maps.  No problem, I used AllTrails - Spencer Meadows.  But I lost the trail on AllTrails at a stream crossing due to all the ash etc.  When I finally found the trail again, I added a Saved Location on my F7SS and InReach Mini 2 via the iOS Explore app where I lost the trail before, as a navaid to easily get back later.

When I tried to navigate to the Saved Location during the Hike activity, I found no way to just route directly to it.  Every attempt gave me a crazy road detour way out of scope - "walk x miles left, take the road 0.5 miles, then walk x miles right to reach your destination".  This makes using Saved Locations in the backcountry for hikers and backpackers virtually useless, and even dangerous - set a location and find later you simply can't navigate to it effectively.

I see from 4-5 years ago that older Garmin HW/SW supported direct navigation in activity settings (hereherehere) but more recently (like this) it seems to only navigate if routable, which as the latter post shows, causes some problems occasionally even when Garmin-known routes may exist.

I've talked with Garmin briefly about this issue and will "share an idea" that maybe a high-end watch used by hikers and backpackers for navigation, should actually support the standard options for navigation that Garmin and other GPS units have had for a few decades.  But if anyone knows a good way of doing this now with Saved Locations, please do chime in!  One option I've heard about is to always use Courses rather than Saved Locations.  Even a single-point Course can act as a directly routable Saved Location, I guess.  Creating these on the fly in the backcountry isn't necessarily a problem.  I haven't actually tried this yet though - and Courses have different limitations than Saved Locations so it seems the solution is "when the only tool you have is a hammer, every problem looks like a nail".

  • Also, it strikes me as bizarre that there is ZERO documentation about which activities support direct navigation and which do not.  Hike does not.  Hunt does.  Walk does not.  Some watersports presumably do (like sailing?), but out of the very many activities, you can't really tell without actually trying each of them???

  • which activities support direct navigation and which do not.  Hike does not. 

    Hike settings - Routing - Direct Routing.

  • On my F7XSS, v13.22, the "Direct Routing" option does not exist under Routing or anywhere else I can find in the Hike activity.  Maybe it was there a few releases ago.  What watch & system version do you have?  Under Hike settings - Routing I see only these:

    Activity - Hiking (if you change to e.g. Mountaineering, it still doesn't fix this!  Imagine requiring map path navigation for mountaineering)

    Popularity Routing - now off for me.  It was on, and I turned it off to see if that would add the direct option, but no

    Calculation Method - Minimize Distance, or Minimize Time, or Minimize Ascent

    Avoidances - yeah but nothing direct routing-related here

    Courses

  • Option for " Direct routing" exist and can be found here:

    Hike settings - Routing - Activity - Direct routing

  • Aha!  Thank you so much.  The Direct Routing option was way up top, I had never found it...I think that's the answer, will try it soon.

  • The Direct Routing option was way up top, I had never found it.

    Then you obviously never looked for them ;) lol

  • Well TBH I thought the "Activity" setting under Hiking was simply the activity name.  Have you actually looked at the list there?? It still seems VERY strange that out of the random list of Activity options for "Hike settings", all the watersports are missing, all the winter sports are missing, many of the land sports are missing (like Hunt?), Direct Routing is way up top, and near the actual Hiking option there is Mountaineering, Off Road/ATV, etc, and choices like Mountaineering option STILL always do calculated routing only.  The only magic option that works here is N screens back.  Well, this may not all seem strange to you but it definitely does to me.

    What was also strange to me, was that the Garmin tech support person I chatted with seemed to also be unaware of this whole area.  So while I "obviously never looked", I did spend ~10min on the trail and another ~20min off the trail before calling Garmin support and STILL didn't get an answer...until lvsaacija gave it (thanks again!)

  • Well TBH I thought the "Activity" setting under Hiking was simply the activity name.  Have you actually looked at the list there?? It still seems VERY strange that out of the random list of Activity options for "Hike settings", all the watersports are missing, all the winter sports are missing, many of the land sports are missing (like Hunt?), Direct Routing is way up top, and near the actual Hiking option there is Mountaineering, Off Road/ATV, etc, and choices like Mountaineering option STILL always do calculated routing only.  The only magic option that works here is N screens back.  Well, this may not all seem strange to you but it definitely does to me.

    What was also strange to me, was that the Garmin tech support person I chatted with seemed to also be unaware of this whole area.  So while I "obviously never looked", I did spend ~10min on the trail and another ~20min off the trail before calling Garmin support and STILL didn't get an answer...until lvsaacija gave it (thanks again!)


    You obviously seem to have something mixed up.

    The direct routing must be activated in the respective activity profile. It is then also used EXCLUSIVELY for this activity profile.


    For example, I have copied the activity profile "Navigate". And activated one of them to direct routing. This I have called "nav direct". The original profile with "follow routes" still exists. So I can quickly call the one I need.

  • There is also a newish app called Reference Point that will "point" you in the direction of a saved location using a compass face.  The link below describes the app.  It's just a different navigation tool that may be useful.

    https://www.garmin.com/en-US/garmin-technology/dive-science/In-dive-features/reference-point/