Outdoor Maps +

This thread is about the new Maps + feature available for the Fenix 7 / Epix 2 series.

My plan is to keep this OP updated with new information as we learn more.

I've already purchased a Maps+ subscription ($50/year), and played with it a little. Here's what I know so far:

  1. Maps+ is a US-only feature currently. No idea if Garmin plans to roll out other countries / regions in the future, or when that might be, but currently if you are not in the US, or don't spend any time in the US, then you can ignore this thread and the new Maps + feature.
  2. The maps can be downloaded with up to 6 different layer types, with things such as private land boundaries, satellite imagery (similar to the now-defunct Birdseye Imagery), and other advanced layer types
  3. You can decide which layers you want at the time of download, so you can omit certain unneeded layers to reduce the download and storage size.
  4. You can toggle layers on and off in each activity's settings.
  5. You can download everything (including the satellite imagery) directly from the Map Manager app on the watch! No need for clunky Basecamp software. Unfortunately, the watch is currently the ONLY place to download Maps+ stuff, there is no integration with Garmin Express, Connect, or anything else yet.
  6. You must have touchscreen turned on in order to change the region location/size you want to download.
  7. There is a size limit on each download, though it's not clear what it is. Sometimes I can download like 100 square miles at once, other times it won't let me download more than 9 square miles. As far as I can tell, there's no way to know how big of a region you can download until you get a "map size limit exceeded" error. For the most part, it always fails when I select a region at larger than 3-mile map scale.
  8. The plan can only be used by one compatible Garmin device but can be transferred to other Garmin devices.
  9. The satellite imagery works better than Birdseye - even though it pretty much looks the same, the watch does a better job of rendering it quickly, and it also is viewable at ALL zoom levels! Classic birdseye imagery only showed up at certain zoom levels, and was often slow to render.
  10. It's a bit buggy currently. For example, the size estimates are all over the place. It'll tell me it's 2.5GB for a small 1 square mile area, and then if I zoom out to 100 square miles it estimates 150mb. From what I can tell, the size estimate is not reliable at all, you kinda just have to download it first and then see what size it ended up. Also I've experienced a couple watch crashes while playing with the Maps+ in map manager, and while turning on and off layers in an activity.
  11. Some map layers (parcel, public lands, hunting units, etc) appear to download the entire state regardless of the size of the region you highlighted. For example, I only downloaded a small region around my house, but when I turn on the Public Lands layer it shows that layer for the entire state. I suspect that when you download multiple regions, it downloads a copy of that entire layer for the entire state, every time, resulting in way more storage space being used than necessary. So it might be best to only download your first region with all the layers turned on, and after than only include 1 or 2 layers (like Satellite imagery) in subsequent region downloads.

Here's a link for product info: https://www.garmin.com/en-US/p/893561

And a link to the support article: https://support.garmin.com/en-US/?faq=eEU6gvM2eX53qJBQD6bkn5&partNumber=010-D2098-00&tab=topics&topFaq=true

  • 8. The plan can only be used by one compatible Garmin device but can be transferred to other Garmin devices.

  • Thank you for putting this together. I couldn't find any details. Is it worth purchasing over the Topoactive maps that I already have on my Enduro 2? Do these maps have the same functionality or better (turn by turn for example). how do they look on the Fenix 7x ?

  • I'm hoping to be able to answer those questions soon, but I haven't had enough time to play around with them yet to really say.

    Certainly the map layers do offer a lot of info not covered by the base topoactive maps, such as property lines and property owner info (useful for hunters wanting to use private land), additional waterway info for boaters, satellite imagery (which looks pretty good on fenix, and even better on Epix obviously), as well as public land boundaries and management groups, etc. But I haven't really had a chance to check them all out in great detail yet unfortunately - hopefully this weekend I can!

  • I really hope the rest of the world will have this feature, because at the moment Garmin are favoring their American customers over European and Asian customers.. 

  • I'm downloading all 6 available Maps+ layers for a small area where I am currently, I'll post screenshots of how each layer looks on my 7X as soon as I can

  • NICE. Thanks buddy, looking forward to it. 

  • So, some odd things I discovered in doing that.

    Some map layers appear to download the entire state regardless of the region you selected. For example, I only downloaded a small region around my work, but when I turn on the Public Lands layer it shows that layer for the entire state. That might be true for some other layers as well. I suspect that when you download multiple regions, it downloads a copy of that entire layer for the entire state, every time, resulting in way more storage space being used than necessary.

    So it might be best to only download your first region with all the layers turned on, and after than only include 1 or 2 layers (like Satellite imagery) in subsequent region downloads.

    Also, a lot of the map layers don't really seem to add anything to the maps, as far as I could tell, but that could just be because I'm in a flat urban area, not really conducive to what some of the layers have to offer.

    All photos taken at 300ft and 0.8 mile zoom levels.

    First, the base Topoactive map that comes on the watch:

    Next we have HMU layer (Hunting Management Unit):

    More in next post...

  • Parcels layer:

    Contours (again, this is flat area, so don't expect too much here):

    Hydro:

    More in next post...

  • Public Land:

    Outdoor POI:

    PLSS:

    More in next post...

  • Satellite:

    USGS Quadrangle Maps: