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Garmin Training Plan a joke? Pro Athlete?

rbmx
over 2 years ago

Always customized my training alone or according to coach.Just for qurreacity I tried Garmin training plan for 2weeks. Not ever once did I get Sprint or Anaerob training. All sessions for two weeks was done 100% according to plan (a little bit faster as well).
When in good shape you wil not get high HR at 15sek sprint or 1min Anaerob, even tough speed will say so.. Pretty sad that Garmin uses only HR to detect this, should have used Tempo/Speed. Garmin gives me “base” on this workoutsThinking (Max HR, threshold etc 100% tested in lab several times)

Any Pro Athletes here?

do you guys use standard Garmin Heart Rate zones or customized according to LAB etc?

maybe better to leave it as std Garmin to make algorithms etc work according to Garmin stats?

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  • 0 over 2 years ago in reply to Etupes25

    Wow, how do you know so much?PrayPrayPrayPrayPray

    I had 72 in 2020, but tested 66 for only 2months ago.

    think it’s back at 70+ now because I had a trauma with my lungs in July (accident on Mtb bike)

    will retest next week actually;)

    ohhhh I have for sure many hard enough efforts both on bike and running;)

  • 0 over 2 years ago in reply to Etupes25

    I was thinking about my Low Vo2max with Garmin.

    I do almost all of mye RUN workouts inside on a treadmill (i am a cross country skier) så basicly only Intervalls.

    Only sometimes i go outside and that is just for a short and easy jog or Long easy jog "Trial running".

    Is this the issue regarding my Calculations? It will not calculate Vo2maX INDOORS?

    Earlier this year my Vomax (Garmin) on cycling was 63 and tested in Lab 66 a little later so that is close enough?

  • 0 over 2 years ago in reply to rbmx
    rbmx said:
    It will not calculate Vo2maX INDOORS?

    Correct.

  • 0 over 2 years ago in reply to rbmx

    Just curious.
    Which treadmill you use, from my experience intervals on treadmill are useles, time treadmill need to spin up and slow down is just to long.
    I’m talking about electric treadmill, never had a chance to use other.

  • 0 over 2 years ago in reply to rbmx

    Wow.
    Nice piece of equipment ;)

  • 0 over 2 years ago in reply to rbmx
    rbmx said:

    Only sometimes i go outside and that is just for a short and easy jog or Long easy jog "Trial running".

    Is this the issue regarding my Calculations? It will not calculate Vo2maX INDOORS?

    You found the root cause. Easy effort was feeding your VO2 Max model, because running VO2 Max requires the GPS for pace (even if you have a device giving pace to the watch, it will use GPS data).

    rbmx said:
    i am a cross country skier

    I am curious. Are you getting a XC skiing FTP? Is this working?

  • 0 over 2 years ago in reply to Etupes25

    OK, so that's the case then, but shouldn't i then get Higher Anaerobic because my VO2max are "to low for me"?

    I have taken a Threshold test outside sam Threshold Speed and HR should be right..

    Yes i get FTP on XC skiing, but are not training/using this. Its only for Fun to Analyze afterwards.

  • 0 over 2 years ago in reply to rbmx
    rbmx said:
    but shouldn't i then get Higher Anaerobic because my VO2max are "to low for me"

    Since your HR max is correct, the watch must have estimated the HR at VO2 max correctly despite using lower efforts to feed the model.

    Also, there is still the issue of having the HR go high enough, long enough and frequently enough during the workout for it to be registered as anaerobic, although the pace might be well into the extensive (150%-200% of FTP) or intensive anaerobic (200%+ of FTP) range.

    A good way to assess your workouts is to look at the stamina graph. VO2 max and anaerobic intervals should bring the stamina to the floor.

    For Anaerobic intervals, you want shorter higher intensity intervals, and make the stamina "hit" the floor a few times. This one below was designed with WKO5 individualized zones to be anaerobic. Note how the stamina touches the floor a couple of times.

    Anaerobic - Aerobic 3.7 - Anaerobic 3.2

    Here is a VO2 max workout, longer intervals.

    VO2 Max - Aerobic 4.6 - Anerobic 1.6

    For threshold workouts, your stamina should barely or not be falling below the black line.

    Threshold - Aerobic 4.3 Anaerobic 0.0

  • 0 over 2 years ago in reply to Etupes25

    Wow dude, another great POST;)::... I just Love numbers and graphs. Is it possible for you to send me this workouts sp i could try them out?, and is this for Running or Cycling?