Inline Skating: ✓Activity, ☐ Data & ☐ Badges

Update (01/07/24): Inline Skating was added to Forerunner 945 LTE
Update (12/04/23): Inline Skating is finally an activity profile (for the following models: Forerunner 255, 265, 955, 965, Fenix 7/Fenix 7 Pro, Epix 2/Epix 2 Pro, Enduro 2, Quatix 7, Marq 2, Approach S70)
Update (10/31/23): Inline Skating added to Forerunner’s beta version 17.18.
Update (10/26/23):
Inline Skating has been added to the beta version 15.68.

Things that appear strikethrough below have already been implemented.


The purpose of this thread is to bring attention to a topic that has been written about here 18 times since 2014, which is to have Inline Skating as a native app in our watches. Inline skating is a sport that has a good number of participants in the Garmin community. Well known professional skaters also use Garmin for their training, so the suggestions below have the purpose of allowing skaters to "make the most of the time they spend pursuing their passions."

Please take a minute to fill the Ideas form with a request for this app and the link to this thread. It’s the most effective way to have our voices heard.

Though it’s true that there are great apps available in Garmin IQ store [read the comments to learn and try an app by ], having a native app will provide a richer experience with Garmin’s data fields, Connect App and other IQ data fields that one would like to see (ex. muscle oxygen). Gathered here are past ideas from older threads and new ones that are inspired by other activities. 

Activity

 wrote in: 'Please consider supporting Inline Skating natively on Fenix'

"There's support for much more exotic sports, but Inline skating, with 4.9M participants as of 2021 in US alone is still missing (as per • Inline wheel roller skating participants US 2021 | Statista)"

Data

Besides having its own activity, the addition of the following data insights within the app would be beneficial to anyone using Garmin for this activity/sport. For example, you can record Pace, Elevation and Heart Rate, but is missed as map layers.

Graphs: Brackets of Speed*

* Something similar to this could display the different ranges of speed one goes through during a race (tempo, threshold, sprint). They could be selected by default or manually set by the skater like we do with Heart Rate or Power zones (Ex. 8–12 mph), so that a skater can know his different speed zones even when influenced by elevation. Or put more simply, distinguishing from cruising/rolling (with no effort), skating (obtained from moving time) and idle.

Edit: A similar graph can be obtained from the Training Calendar 'FinalSurge.com'

 Other Data: Self evaluation*, Totals, Personal records

* Not visible for 'Other' sports in Connect Mobile

           

Miscellaneous

When selecting skates in the gear section to be the defaults for Other—which is what the majority uses to track Inline Skating—every other activity in that category has that gear assigned, even breathwork! A clear distinction would prevent this even if it recognizes that it was changed from Other to Inline Skating from the long list of sports.

   

When setting up a race event in calendar 'Other' sports can't have an event goal assigned like cycling does for example.

  

Another thing that results from the ‘Other’ category is the inability of viewing avg. Heart Rate data in Garmin Connect Mobile's laps view when reviewing a custom workout, and also not being able to set a secondary target to workouts. PacePro Pacing strategies can't be set for races in this sport since the fastest pace one's able to submit is 4:00/mi. Finally, when using auto export feature, one needs to recategorize every activity on multiple platform (Ex. Strava).

Here’s inspiration on the type of data that’s most interested from a race (Ex. 200 meters) collected by Speed Skating Data on Instagram:

• Fastest lap
• Slowest lap
• Number of total pushes
• Number of pushes by segment or lap (in a skating track it’s divided into: first corner, second corner, first straight, second straight)

Badges

For some of us that mainly use Garmin for inline skating, and other sports too, we miss out on much of the badges available in the app. The following are a few ideas for inspiring badges for Inline Skating.

  1. Number of skating activities
  2. Specific distances reached
  3. Marathon

The ideas above are shared agreeing to the Terms of Use described in Garmin’s Ideas Form.

  • TL;DR

    Create a workout under 'Other' and open it using the Workouts app and choosing Inline Skating as your activity.


    It has its way, though a longer process than before. The fact of the matter is that Inline Skating belongs to the 'Other sports' category/group. When you create a custom workout choosing Other you will see it available when you start the Inline Skating app.

    Normally you'd do this through the 'Training' menu after opening the activity. It was missing before, but after being added to the app, developers forgot to include the Workout library and Training calendar. That means now your only alternative is to start the custom workout from the Workouts App in watch and then select Inline Skating as your activity of choice. Doing this you'll encounter another issue with this process besides waiting a few seconds for the long list of sports to appear, and then you can do your workout.

    After its done you'll see it saved as Inline Skating, and something that has been added on a new update is the ability to add a Self Evaluation (RPE and Feeling) to the workout from your watch. But still, since its a sport under the 'Other' category you won't be able to see self evaluation through your mobile app; only in Connect web. Shrug

  • Great thank you!. Do you know when inline skating will be available for 6s models ?. Because my brother is also an inline speed skater and has that model but still doesnt have the inline speed sakting activity.

  • There's no way to know, unless it's added in a beta update for the model. Best option would be to request it through the Ideas form. Are you familiar with the world champion Nolan Beddiaf? He used to have a Fenix 6 and then changed to the 7. You can notice the upgrade on his Strava by how his skating sessions started to appear consistently as Inline Skating instead of just 'Workout'. A feature stressed how important it was and now many can see why and enjoy.

    I'm sure Garmin knows there's an interest for the activity on that and other models that keep being mentioned in the forums, but it's their call to add it or not and they don't announce if they will. Naturally the inclusion of this app in older models would increase its number of users which would then make visible how large the market is for Garmin to keep improving the Inline Skating activity.

    Requests for inline skating in the forums:

    • Instinct 2s/2/2X/Crossover

    • Forerunner 945

    Vivoactive 5Vivoactive 4

    Venu 3 & Venu 2

  • I have had a Venu 2 for two years and have been using the fbbrown app, but would prefer a native inline app and willing to buy another model that has it. My main question is about VO2 max, which is not available through fbbrown. To my knowledge it seems the only app that updates VO2 max is Run, however I have slight knee issues with running and skating is more conducive. Will this new Inline Skating app report and update my VO2 max? Thanks.

  • Hi Scott!

    To my knowledge it seems the only app that updates VO2 max is Run

    Cycling also provides a VO2 Max score when you use HR data coupled with Power metrics. 

    Will this new Inline Skating app report and update my VO2 max?

    It will not. I don't know how complicated would be to add this functionality to Inline Skating, but I guess it's more complicated than the suggestions shared in this thread. I can refer you to this comment and the ones beneath it in which @philipshambrook and  answer a question similar to yours.

    In my own training I bike in low to medium intensity and rely on inline skating for VO2 max workouts—mainly accelerations in flat roads or an uphill. I seldom do sprints on the bike, but when I ride in tempo/threshold I reckon the Cycling VO2 max improvement it registers I get is higher than it would've been without those inline HIIT sessions, as you'll read in that thread.

    In spite of the lack of this feature, I like to pay attention to the RPE, Training focus, intervals' avg and max HR, avg. speed, expecting to see a lower bpm while keeping or increasing the speed.

  • Great that inline skating is added a a built in activitiy. Please make it alo available to the Garmin 6x pro software 

  • A typo has been pointed out by using Inline Skating in the FR965.

    1. "HEQRT RATE" typo for Inline Skating
  • Another idea would be to have skating stats while using the Garmin HRM-Pro Plus like "skating dynamics" and performance stats like running, for example: Skating pace, power, stamina, performance condition, cadence, stride length,  respitory rate, hr zones and power zones.

  • All great ideas! Some of them also previously mentioned by other skaters here in the forums. It'd be wonderful if in the future Garmin would have the interest in developing Inline Skating further with these advanced metrics and other features already added to the main sports.

    Skating pace

    In Connect Web you can go to an activity and scroll down to stats you can switch from Speed (default) to Pace. It'll automatically change the Speed chart into a Pace one. Not available in Mobile I believe, but you still get avg. and max pace. in summary there.

    respitory rate, hr zones

    Respiratory rate is available both with the HRM Pro-Plus and even HRM Dual. HR zones are the ones set for general use, not the Sport HR zones you can add to running or cycling.

    cadence, stride length

    This would be useful to calculate the number of pushes. Maybe ground contact time coupled with distance could be used for calculating stride length. But it's tricky since on skates one could also have both on the floor at the same time. Maybe less during starts.

    Double contact tutorial: https://youtu.be/QF23FHXemHQ?si=Yige8CBK_MF4U0MV

    Start example: https://youtu.be/vCweg2rIQ-Q?feature=shared

    power

    If taking Running power as example, we'd only need to figure out how to get Vertical and Horizontal Oscillation. From its description it "reflects the amount of “bounce” in each step while you run. Measured at the torso, it tells you, in centimeters, how much distance you are traveling up and down with each step." I think there's less bounce in skating than in running and the variation of this distance from the torso could also be due to the skater's position as well.

    stamina

    "Real-time stamina tracking works by combining your physiological metrics with a multi-layered analysis of your recent and longer-term activity history. This includes examining training durations, distances covered, training load accumulations and load distributions for meaningful patterns that reflect fatigue resistance and personal tolerances for aerobic and anaerobic exercise." Inline Skating seems to have what's required to have Stamina data.

    performance condition

    About PC"During the first 6 to 20 minutes of your run, this metric analyzes pace, heart rate and HRV. The resulting number is a real-time assessment of the deviation from your baseline VO2 max, with each point on the scale representing about 1% of your VO2 max." An Inline Skating VO2 Max calculation would be the only thing missing in order to get a Performance Condition, I think.

  • Still no inline skating activity for Solar 2X :-(