Practical limits to activity time/duration/length

Hello, next month I will be doing a ultra distance paddle race, 1000ish miles spread over 6-10 days. It consists of 18 paddle hours and 6 mandatory rest hours, per day. My watch is a Fenix 7X SS.

Are there any practical limitations to how long a SUP activity can be? All in its probably going to take 110-140 hours. I'm thinking in terms of how large/number of points a FIT or GPX file can handle before something might crash or get corrupted. I would really hate to get 3 days in and lose the whole thing.

I could end the activity and start a new one each day, but I was planning on just pause/resuming around the breaks to have it all as one activity.

One thing I have noticed after uploading the planned race course to Garmin Connect, it really gets sluggish and slows down my web browser a lot, given the sheer size of the track. Doubly so when Course Points are selected. And that's with a fraction of the number of waypoints compared to a watch recording once a second.

I have already run into the problem of being limited to 200 course points per course. I've played around with trying to split it up into 4-5 chunks but so far its been a pain in the ass to do, and no software out there (Basecamp!) is user friendly enough for me to handle it.

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The longest continues activity I have recorded in one shot it ~15 hours and it handled it fine.

  • From the document How Do I Manually Upload an Activity I Recorded to Garmin Connect? 

    Garmin Connect supports .fit, .gpx, and .tcx files. These files cannot exceed size limit of 25 megabytes (MB) per file. There is also a limit of 99,999 total points per file. 

    And although it refers to the manually imported files, I suspect that the same limits apply for the standard file transfer too. 99.999 points with the Every Second Recording equals to slightly less than 28 hours. The size of the file strongly depends on the number of sensors, and additional IQ data fields you use, but at a few sample activities I checked, it was around 60 bytes per second (with every second recording). With the 25MB limit, it would be sufficient for over 100 hours, if I calculate right. Check the size per second on some of you older activities.

    It means you are more limited by the max number of points, than by the file size (assuming your watch has sufficient free storage space). In other words, you better change to the "smart recording" and make some tests, to see how many points per hour you get, in average. You can then calculate whether it will be within the limit or not.

    Another problem though, is the battery. You will need to recharge regularly during those 10 days.

  • ... BTW, I would recommend splitting the race into multiple activities anyway, regardless the limits. It is much safer, and certainly better losing just a small part, than losing everything, in case something goes wrong. You can always merge the individual files into a single activity, for example with the File Combiner at https://www.fitfiletools.com/ 

  • Thank you! That is super useful. I'll test further but it sounds like it should be done as a few separate activities to be safe... 

    The watch will definitely have to be recharged a few times. Although, with the correct battery setting selected it should last ~100 hours in GPS only mode (no multiband, HR, BT, music, pulse ox. etc.) Couple that with solar and being outdoors for 20 hours/day, it should last quite some time. There is a LOT of sun above the 60th parallel this time of year Slight smile

  • t should last ~100 hours in GPS only mode

    Yes, theoretically yes, but I would definitely not rely on it Slight smile It may be also a pity not having the HR.

    Good luck with the race! And please let us know how it finished, and whether the recording completed successfully.

  • Definitely will! It would be cool to have all the data, but wrist based HR without a strap is not super accurate. I think its common for all upper body sports.

  • Also if you have an activity on pause your watch will not record stress or sleep data, if you care about those. 

  • wrist based HR without a strap is not super accurate. I think its common for all upper body sports.

    I do not own the F7, so cannot judge. I have Instinct 2, which is very light, and it records the HR almost as reliably as my HRM-Pro. With the heavy watches like the F7 or MK2, it is certainly much more challenging, because due to the increased inertia, they tend to move more on the wrist.

  • Are you doing the Yukon 1K? That's epic! Would love to hear about your experience after you finish the race as well.

  • Yep! I'll post an update after :) 

  • but wrist based HR without a strap is not super accurate

    I’ve been finding the OHR on the F7 almost as good as the strap for most activities.  IMHO there’s been massive progress since OHR made its debut to the extent I no longer feel I have to wear a strap. Even had some good sprints recorded the other day with the OHR. Apparently you won’t actually save much battery not having the strap. I have seen somewhere where it’s more battery economical to have the strap than not. 
    Good luck with the event. Would be really good to see the joined activity posted when you finish.