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Average lap pace

davie1970
over 3 years ago

What happen with the average lap pace on the Fenix 7?

With my Fenix 6 I was always able to keep good pace with the average lap pace.
With the fenix 7, the lap pace fluctuates between 30 seconds or more at the same running pace.
At the end of the lap, the lap time is also not the same as shown in the average lap time.

It looks more like the average lap time is just the realtime running pace.
If it really was the average lap pace, the pace couldn't fluctuate like that.

Is it possible that it has someting to do with the multiband GPS?
That it's jumping from one to another?

  • 0 over 3 years ago

    no it is very unlikely to multiband gps.

    the way it work is that the 2 bands provide a location using different frequencies, with different accuracies at result. After this, it's own internal cooking, how the final position is determined (very likely in the arm cpu of the gps), then this location is feeding garmin algorithm to produce a pace (think that there is HUGE filtering between all those calculations, as raw data are NEVER useable in DSP).

    It's in this final part, that the fenix 6 was really working in another universe, with other laws of physics... ie getting average speed HIGHER than any instant pace returned by the watch... really.... I got this almost all the time with an external sensor (stryd) used for distance, during a workout... Adding a bit more to it, I made a small iq datafied to compute vma % (maybe in english read Vvo2max%, maximal aerobic speed % ), and I discovered that the instant speed, and lap speed, were absolutely out of valid values, there was NO way the 2 could be correlated in any way, there was so much smoothing and filtering.

    So no, the 6 wasn't spot on, wasn't accurate... did not made the same checks with the 7 yet... but really it was not working before, it could be worse indeed... (and I tested on many watches on my club, not only mine...)

    the best thing to do, is to report it to support, expecting they could pass the word to the developper.. usually the fastest path is to way for the beta to be published, then send an email report to the beta team, THEY are the guy doing it, and they react way faster than support.

    Good luck...

  • 0 over 3 years ago

    I had the same surprise two hours ago when doing short intervals.

    I checked the lap alarm settings in the audio prompts and I noticed it was set to average pace by default, instead of lap average pace... Hence the weird / slow values. Pace on the run graph in GC looks fine.

    I updated the settings and will make sure it is working good tomorrow on the recovery run :)

  • 0 over 3 years ago in reply to Klick

    I forgot to add that I read somewhere that pace displayed in workout screen is the instant pace. On previous models it used to be lap average pace.

  • 0 over 3 years ago in reply to Klick

    I'm having this same issue. Fenix 5 had it as average lap pace, this seems to be instant pace (with the 7).  Is there any way to change it?