Summary of User Complaints and Improvement Requests Regarding Garmin Descent Mk3 Swimming Features

Background:
As someone who enjoys both swimming and freediving, I made the significant decision to purchase the Garmin Descent Mk3. While I’m quite satisfied with its freediving features, I find the swimming functionalities to be severely lacking.

Main Complaints:

  1. Limitations in Activity Recognition:

    • No Recognition of Kickboard/Drill Practice: Unlike Samsung Galaxy Watch or Apple Watch, which can somewhat detect swimming even without arm movements, the Mk3 completely fails to recognize such activities and requires manual input through the “Drill Log” function. This is disappointing, especially for a smartwatch marketed as fitness-focused.

    • Inaccurate Stroke Recognition: Regardless of the actual stroke used, over 90% of my swimming is recorded as breaststroke. This is not a personal issue, but rather a long-standing problem with Garmin watches, as pointed out by many users. Competing products generally offer much better stroke recognition.

  2. Lack of Water Temperature Measurement During Swimming:

    • Although the Mk3 is equipped with a water temperature sensor, this function is unavailable during swimming activities and is not recorded in activity logs. Users want to see real-time water temperature during their swims and have this data logged for future reference, especially when swimming in different pool environments.

  3. Swimming Features Are Underdeveloped Compared to Running:

    • Swimming is arguably the second most important sport for smartwatch users after running. However, Garmin seems to lag behind in supporting and developing swimming-related features. As a result, many users feel that apart from waterproofing and battery life, Garmin is hard to recommend for swimmers.

Requested Improvements:

  • Significant Enhancement of Swimming Features: Garmin should provide swimming support on par with its running features, ultimately fostering the perception that "Garmin is the go-to brand for swimming."

  • Firmware Updates: Improvements such as better activity recognition accuracy and water temperature display/logging should be implemented via firmware updates—not only for the Mk3 but for as many Garmin devices as possible.

Conclusion:
I feel that Garmin has neglected swimming functionality, especially in terms of activity recognition accuracy, user convenience, and supplementary features like water temperature logging. Just as Garmin has become a top choice for runners, I urge the company to take proactive steps so it can also become the best option for swimmers.

  • Assuming you're referencing the Pool Swim activity? You can enable temperature recording for Open Water swims. It does seem odd that it's not an option for Pool Swims but probably less of a concern in the pool compared to open water.

  • 1. Kickboard is annoying, also have had watch crashes in previous Garmin's while doing long kick training with normal watch usage.

    2. In pools the hardware was prone to break if the temperature was enabled in pools so that feature was pulled some time ago to protect the hardware. This is generic statements to Garmin watches and happened even before MK3 was released. So I would doubt that there has been any such feature promised. I doubt that is coming before the hardware issue is fixed in some future watch.

    3. Yes, I would think more people bike than swim. 

    What comes to the rest, this is community forum and right place for that post is: Share Ideas | Garmin 

  • 1. I'm not quite sure what kind of crash issue you're referring to.

    2. Why would there be a problem with checking water temperature in a pool? At the very least, the MK3 has a fully functional temperature sensor that works perfectly underwater, especially during freediving and scuba diving. Also, from the comments above, I found out that in open water swim mode, the temperature is displayed and recorded. This means that if Garmin really wanted to, they could easily enable this feature.

    3. Even if swimming is only the third most popular sport, I still hope Garmin would pay more attention to swimming features.

  • You're right — the temperature sensor is indeed active in open water swimming.
    But I really don’t understand why Garmin doesn’t utilize the temperature sensor for indoor swimming. I live in a region with very distinct seasons, so when I go to an indoor pool, the water temperature often feels different depending on the time of year. Also, when I visit different pools, I’d like to know what the water temperature is and be able to keep a record of it. (My previous smartwatch used to log this information.)

  • Your use case does seem reasonable. If Open Water can do it I don't see a reason why Pool Swim couldn't as well. Perhaps use Garmin's form to submit an idea? https://www.garmin.com/en-US/forms/ideas/ Usually they recommend that along with posting on the forums. Granted as mentioned there was an issue with previous hardware (who knows if it still applies to newer devices). www.dcrainmaker.com/.../fascinating-reason-temperature.html

    That being said, I usually look at the Open Water temps with a grain of salt. If your stroke is bringing your arm out of the water then depending on the sampling rate it might grab the water temperature, air temperature or something in between them. It's not like diving where the water is fully submerged and not rapidly switching environments.

  • Crashes as getting the blue triangle. Had that happening in Forerunner 955 or 945 or something. Can't remember. Maybe could be find from the forums but don't want to try to search. 

    Haven't swim so much with my Descent and especially haven't done drills so can't say has those been improved. 

    For the why it would be problem the Ray's article was linked, that should answer it. 

    And yes, one can hope, that's why they have that Ideas form, where all the hopes and dreams go to die... 

  • I would think it does, otherwise why wouldn't they reactivate it? But of course could also be that they have just forgotten, but who knows. 

  • Maybe the Temp Sensor is disabled for the Pool Activity because it may be sensitive to the typical Chlorine chemical and cause it to fail long term.

    Just guessing.

  • Thank you for your feedback.
    I didn’t know there was an idea submission form. jmto said it’s where hopes and dreams go to die... but anyway, I’ve submitted my suggestion.
    Also, I checked the link and the title was “Morocco Gravel Bike Adventure: In Search of Camels” — is that the right one?
    And since the smartwatch is almost always in contact with water during swimming, I don’t think the temperature readings would be significantly inaccurate.

  • Ah, so that was the issue.

    I reported it to the place where hopes and dreams go to die. (>_<) I guess I’ll just try to forget about it.