VO2Max

I was very close to buy this watch, since it almost exactly fits my need, but I really cannot understand the lack of VO2Max. I totally agree on removing all the advanced training metrics, but VO2Max is a basic metric available also on the Vivoactive 3. Since I think this can be fixed with a firmware update, may I hope Garmin will add it?

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Former Member over 5 years ago +2

I feel the same way to be honest. I think it was left off the Instinct to further set it apart front the flagship Fenix lineup. However I think that the Fenix line is elite enough as it is and that adding…
EnormoDerClown over 4 years ago in reply to Former Member +1 suggested

I think it is obvious that this will never ever happen. The watch is not marketed as a training watch for running and such and will never be. It is a robust watch for outdoor activities where it could…
4906382 over 4 years ago in reply to trux +1

It's better than nothing though I suppose. Either way it's just an estimation and not a real value. Seems like a lot of people want this as a motivation

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0 4906382 over 4 years ago in reply to dedone

I the acquisition and the competition with the new solar and same priced gshock gbd-h1000 could change it (although I doubt). The only field which the Casio beats the Solar Instinct is the vo2max inclusion (and perhaps better build quality). But I don't really think they will. It's a strategic decision.

0 darnich over 4 years ago in reply to 4906382

If I remember correctly casio gets its vo2 metrics from firstbeat as well, so I believe they are equivalent

0 4906382 over 4 years ago in reply to darnich

They do..

0 dedone over 4 years ago in reply to darnich

exactly and now it means that casio must pay fees to Garmin to use VO2 metrics...So there's no more excuses related to fee costs to pay for the feature addition on the Instinct, now we will se if it's only a marketing choice or if they will make us a great gift

0 4906382 over 4 years ago in reply to dedone

The thing is, if they wanted to do it they'd do it with the launch of instinct solar. They would add it to the solar first (and then to the regular version perhaps because it doesn't make sense to add it only to solar version) Anyway, vo2max is calculated from running data, so if you 're into running you can plug the garmin connect data to runalyze and calculate vo2max from there.

0 dedone over 4 years ago in reply to 4906382

Unfortunately connect don't analyze it. If I use my fenix it give me the value, but with the instinct no

0 4906382 over 4 years ago in reply to dedone

I know it doesn't. What I meant is give access to runalyze to use the garmin connect data. That way they can estimate your vo2max (it's in their free package and they also claim better accuracy...)

0 trux over 4 years ago in reply to 4906382

4906382 said:
they also claim better accuracy

Well, since they use a simplified VO₂Max estimation method based solely on the heart rate and the GPS data, while Garmin uses also the HRV (Heart Rate Variability) data for detecting the lactic threashold, it is a rather speculative claim.

0 4906382 over 4 years ago in reply to trux

It's better than nothing though I suppose. Either way it's just an estimation and not a real value. Seems like a lot of people want this as a motivation

0 trux over 4 years ago in reply to 4906382

4906382 said:
It's better than nothing though I suppose. Either way it's just an estimation and not a real value. Seems like a lot of people want this as a motivation

Yes, of course, and that's fine. I just commented on the claim of higher accuracy, which does not sound quite credible if their input data is worse than what Garmin can use. I have absolutely nothing against using it, anyway. The VO₂Max values of Garmin/Firstbeat are finally just estimates, too, not lab results.