Software version 10, I am confused

Give that I mosty used my fenix 5 for running trails on mountains, I was on software version 9.73 beta release because of the following fix :
- Fixed an issue that could cause elevation graphs to be smoothed and total ascent and descent values to be inaccurate.

Hoping to resolve the issue with the elevation. During the Lavaredo Ultra Trail for example a 120km trail race with 6000m of vertical gain, my fenix 5 gave me only 5300 where all my running mates watches (fenix3 and suuntos) where spot on.
I didn't even have time to test it and the watch auto opted-out of beta and updated to software version 10.
Now, I am fine with my watch deciding to opt-out of beta autonomously, what I am not fine with is that version 10 does not include the eleveation fix.

The release notes are clear, the fix is not icluded. Which leaves me confused.
Why a version greater than 9.73 does not include fixes released with past beta version?
Why did my watch update to a version which, even if greater in version number has funtionalies regresions ?

Sorry for my poor English, not my language.
  • 10.0 for me fixed elevation. Better than 9.73 imo.
  • I have been running 10.0 for a few days and with a few MTB activities and the elevation issues I was previously experiencing seem to be resolved. Ironically, now when I visit Garmin Connect with a browser, I no longer see the device (5S) listed under the activity and therefore don't see the elevation correction option listed. I probably don't need to correct the elevation moving forward but is this normal behavior?
  • The whole point of beta software is to test it in a wider range of use cases, with different sensors, etc before it is released as production software.

    Sometimes that testing uncovers some problems with a new feature. Sometimes it is a simple fix to address the problem, sometimes the fix will take longer, more thorough testing, etc. At which point the developers have a choice of delaying the entire release of the production software, or release the production software on schedule but postpone the new feature until a later release.

    As the FW included a new connect IQ platform for 3rd party developers that had been pre-announced, I am assuming they chose to release on schedule without the elevation correction feature, rather than delaying.

    There's a saying amongst experienced endurance athletes "Never try anything new on race day", whether that is a new pair of shoes, a brand of energy gel you haven't used before, etc. And personally, I include updated watch software in "anything new", so I turn off the firmware autoupdate a few days before a major ride/run.
  • The whole point of beta software is to test it in a wider range of use cases, with different sensors, etc before it is released as production software.

    Sometimes that testing uncovers some problems with a new feature. Sometimes it is a simple fix to address the problem, sometimes the fix will take longer, more thorough testing, etc. At which point the developers have a choice of delaying the entire release of the production software, or release the production software on schedule but postpone the new feature until a later release.

    As the FW included a new connect IQ platform for 3rd party developers that had been pre-announced, I am assuming they chose to release on schedule without the elevation correction feature, rather than delaying.

    There's a saying amongst experienced endurance athletes "Never try anything new on race day", whether that is a new pair of shoes, a brand of energy gel you haven't used before, etc. And personally, I include updated watch software in "anything new", so I turn off the firmware autoupdate a few days before a major ride/run.


    All excellent points, but what is strange in this case is that while the release notes do not include the elevation fix, my issue (and Lewis_C as reported here) is completely resolved with the 10.0 release. Maybe it was accidentally or intentionally omitted from the notes...
  • I'm on 10.52 beta and the elevation problems are still the same than on my last Firmware 9.2
    Always about 50m behind the real value (like from gps height or readings on cable car stations, maps, etc.).

    Recently I tried to go with the "tracker" activity mode on my F5 because I read a tip on a review website.
    It was the first time since a long period that my F5 was "just" 6m behind the reading on a cable car station.
    I will test this again on my next ride or hike to confirm.
  • I'm on 10.52 beta and the elevation problems are still the same than on my last Firmware 9.2
    Always about 50m behind the real value (like from gps height or readings on cable car stations, maps, etc.).

    Recently I tried to go with the "tracker" activity mode on my F5 because I read a tip on a review website.
    It was the first time since a long period that my F5 was "just" 6m behind the reading on a cable car station.
    I will test this again on my next ride or hike to confirm.


    My issue was much worse that that. Attached are two images showing essentially the same MTB ride done months apart. The one with 587 elevation gain was with the firmware just before 10.0 so it was 9.2 (edit: updated with exact firmware). The other is an old MTB ride following essentially the exact same route with the same 5S watch with firmware 8.0, before the elevation issues started and it recorded 1,014 ft elevation gain. As it can be seen, the elevation plot in the bad firmware was showing 57% of the actual elevation gain and the plot is very smooth and missing the correct terrain variation. Using elevation correction does fix the issue but it is a hassle. I was getting consistent wrong elevation gain on the firmware just before 10.0. Now with 10.0 I get very accurate results similar to the older firmware. I hope it lasts!ciq.forums.garmin.com/.../1395912.jpg
  • For me the issue is also solved with 10.0
    This is exactly the same 40 km mtb route performed on different times
    Fenix 3 V 8.30 301 m
    Fenix 5 V 6.00 305 m
    Fenix 5 V 9.20 209 m
    Fenix 5 V 9.20 215 m
    Fenix 5 V 10.0 295 m

    After the 10.0 update the fénix returns at the correct elevation gain.

    Arturo J. from Alicante
  • For me it's not just about sowing the correct elevation gain, but also showing me the correct present altitude.
    I've never checked, if the elevation gain is precisely determined up to the last meter. In my case it's more about knowing how far it is to go for the summit, the next hut or any other goal. And if the watch always show me an altitude beneath the real value it's always irritating and annoying, especially if you are in a foreign environment.