Fenix 5S/5 - 10.52 Beta Release

Hello Fenix 5/5S users,

We have new beta software ready for your upcoming adventures!

Fenix 5S: https://www8.garmin.com/support/down...s.jsp?id=11661
Fenix 5: https://www8.garmin.com/support/down...s.jsp?id=11663

Note: Please allow for the updates to propagate across all servers. There is no need to post that the link does not work. It will after a bit of patience.

10.52 Change Log Notes:
  • Fixed Swim PR issue.

Please send all bug reports to [EMAIL="[email protected]"][email protected][/EMAIL], and indicate which model of the fenix 5 series you have in the subject line.

Please note, the beta updates released on these forums are not suitable for APAC region devices.
  • Please, please PLEASE, F'in Please ADD camera selfie button support to iPhone. Just like there is a widget for music, there has to be a widget for Camera just like many less expensive watches which is a basic feature now days. WTF, we went from software 6, 7, 8, 9, and 10 with this feature still missing.



    Dear Rool1212, if you want such a feature then please buy yourself a iWatch or anything else. This watch is made for outdoor use and navigation and not for self-portrayal.
  • Former Member
    0 Former Member over 6 years ago
    Dear Rool1212, if you want such a feature then please buy yourself a iWatch or anything else. This watch is made for outdoor use and navigation and not for self-portrayal.


    If you're holding your phone in one hand, how are you going to press the button to take a selfie anyway? Isn't this precisely what self timers are for?
  • If you want something like a "selfie widget", it "might" be possible with a CIQ widget and a companion app on the phone. Suggest it Here.

    But if you are holding your phone to take a selfie, why not just use the phone to do it?
  • Former Member
    0 Former Member over 6 years ago
    Dear Rool1212, if you want such a feature then please buy yourself a iWatch or anything else. This watch is made for outdoor use and navigation and not for self-portrayal.


    Really!! So remove the faces, remove the music control, remove time zones, remove the weather, and remove the notification because a person like you only use it to count steps!! What kind of argument you have!
    The selfie button is a simple feature available in very basic smart watches nowadays, if you don't want to use it, then don't use it. It is a simple bluetooth command to press the volume button when the camera app is running for both iOS and Android..
  • Former Member
    0 Former Member over 6 years ago
    If you're holding your phone in one hand, how are you going to press the button to take a selfie anyway? Isn't this precisely what self timers are for?


    J_uK_i and jim_m_58,

    Thank you for your reply, You are correct that you should use the phone when taking a selfie. I meant to use the iPhone with a selfie stick. Your phone if 2 or 3 feet away on the stick, and it would be nice to press a button on the watch to take the photo. Some sticks come with a bluetooth button, but this should come with the watch as a basic feature just like controlling the music volume, pause, and play!

    I looked everywhere for such widget in the IQ store, and wrote many times to Garmin hoping that they would add it in one of the updates. I don't understand why they don't add it.

    Thanks
  • Former Member
    0 Former Member over 6 years ago
    J_uK_i and jim_m_58,

    Thank you for your reply, You are correct that you should use the phone when taking a selfie. I meant to use the iPhone with a selfie stick. Your phone if 2 or 3 feet away on the stick, and it would be nice to press a button on the watch to take the photo. Some sticks come with a bluetooth button, but this should come with the watch as a basic feature just like controlling the music volume, pause, and play!

    I looked everywhere for such widget in the IQ store, and wrote many times to Garmin hoping that they would add it in one of the updates. I don't understand why they don't add it.

    Thanks


    I'd argue it's such a niche thing, that it would be more likely to be a third party widget than an official feature. I'd hardly consider it basic. Besides, don't most selfie sticks above and beyond the bare basic ones already come with a button?

    Plus again, you've a watch on your right hand. If you hold the selfie stick in your right hand, you've got to reach over to fiddle with the watch. If you've the watch on your left hand, you've still got to reach over, with the stick, to fiddle with the watch,

    By design, it makes more sense to put the button on the stick.... It's not really the sort of feature that's going to appeal to more than an insignificant fraction of the user Garmin aim's the Fenix series at....
  • Former Member
    0 Former Member over 6 years ago
    Really!! So remove the faces, remove the music control, remove time zones, remove the weather, and remove the notification because a person like you only use it to count steps!! What kind of argument you have!
    The selfie button is a simple feature available in very basic smart watches nowadays, if you don't want to use it, then don't use it. It is a simple bluetooth command to press the volume button when the camera app is running for both iOS and Android..


    The argument is the Fenix is more for serious uses (and that's not steps - I'm thinking more the navigation, and the Firstbeat intensive fitness data) than some simple feature which is really the sort of thing CIQ addons was designed to do - the fact that no one has come forward to write a widget for this suggests just how important the feature is for the Garmin user in general.

    And really it's more of a fitness watch than a smart watch. Hell, I don't even have notifications on mine save call. I'm sick of being nagged for every little thing. Much as I love my iPhone, it's a major reason I didn't go for an iWatch (aside from battery life and fitness stats! :) )

    Why not post on the CIQ forum asking if someone could write it, or offer to help you code it yourself.

    As far as the app sounds, it needs a button to send a signal. As the fenix isn't touchscreen, you'd need to push a physical button (minus my caveat's above about how that would work in practise) to send the signal. If someone really wanted to, you probably could code this in a day.....
  • Rool1212 - I posted a link to the "CIQ App Ideas" forum. Suggested your idea there, and maybe a 3rd party developer will do it. Phone camera controls have been suggested in the past, but none have been developed though.
  • Former Member
    0 Former Member over 6 years ago
    Thanks everyone for listening. The fact that it was requested and no one did it makes me think that there must be an obstacle within the Garmin software that would prevent such thing, which is why I was hoping that Garmin add it to the core software. I might be wrong.

    As for the importance of the selfie button, I think it would be a great feature if you think about it as follow:

    I hold the stick with my left hand, and my watch is on the left hand. When I am ready for the picture, with my right hand I reach to the watch and press a button. It is done.
    Now imagine you have a simple stick with no button, you can take it to the water given you have a water proof iPhone, you can then use your watch for selfies in the water using the same method. Let alone that the selfie stick does have a bluetooth button, but at the event you want to use it, you find that it needs change!! the watch would be a great savor. Or here is another scenario, set the iPhone on a tripod, gather the family, and with the watch take the photo! There are so many ways you can use this camera button for, just open your mind and take a little rest from fitness because I really don't use this $600 watch much for fitness. I love the fact that it is always on, and the 3 week battery life compared to the 1 to 3 days battery life of less expensive smart watches. But they all have a selfie button :-(
  • Former Member
    0 Former Member over 6 years ago
    I hold the stick with my left hand, and my watch is on the left hand. When I am ready for the picture, with my right hand I reach to the watch and press a button. It is done.
    Now imagine you have a simple stick with no button, you can take it to the water given you have a water proof iPhone, you can then use your watch for selfies in the water using the same method. Let alone that the selfie stick does have a bluetooth button, but at the event you want to use it, you find that it needs change!! the watch would be a great savor. Or here is another scenario, set the iPhone on a tripod, gather the family, and with the watch take the photo! There are so many ways you can use this camera button for, just open your mind and take a little rest from fitness because I really don't use this $600 watch much for fitness. I love the fact that it is always on, and the 3 week battery life compared to the 1 to 3 days battery life of less expensive smart watches. But they all have a selfie button :-(


    "There are so many ways you can use this camera button for" - actually just one, taking a picture ;)

    "just open your mind and take a little rest from fitness because I really don't use this $600 watch much for fitness." - but the vast majority of people who buy this watch, and in fact Garmin's target audience. consider those fitness stats far, far more important than selfie's. Hell, consider me an old curmudgeon but if I could send selfie's into Room 101 I would in a heartbeat ;) You're asking for a chance that benefit's possibly less than 0.01% of the audience. and is obviously low in demand considering it doesn't even figure in the CIQ apps

    And again, it's not a smart watch - it's a fitness watch. You're not the target audience for it. Especially since you bought a watch whose selling point is it's deep fitness stats which you admit you don't use :) You're probably better off with something like an Amazefit Bip which does have good battery life and will probably offer what you want from it ;)

    https://play.google.com/store/apps/d...elfie&hl=en_US