Fenix and Edge Integration

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Does anyone have information on whether Garmin is working on integrating their watches (such as the fenix) and the Edge series? Specifically in terms of syncing workouts and the Training Status metrics. I'm confused how the current "best practice" for getting comprehensive data seems to be to use your watch for everything, instead of supplementing the watch with a bike computer that is both expensive and better suited to the purpose of cycling.

I'm not a coder but this seems like it would be doable by aggregating the workouts and metrics from both devices in Garmin Connect, and then pulling that info back onto the device. I've noticed that Training Status is currently device-dependent in Garmin Connect, but I see no reason why this needs to be the case.

Isn't this sort of synergy between Garmin's various devices precisely the sort of thing they should be selling to their core audience who is willing to spend $600-800 on a Fenix 5?
  • Former Member
    0 Former Member over 8 years ago
    I'm throwing in my support here that I would love this feature too.

    I have my Fenix5 as my all-day-every-day wearing watch/activity tracker. Running. Walking. Hiking. All that fun stuff, hooray!
    I have a Garmin 1000 that I use for training, mapping new routes, and having my data that I want nestled neatly right in front of my stem on a wonderful k-edge Garmin/light mount.

    I ride one bike to/from the office, which I would prefer to just have my Fenix record stuff for. I ride my other bike for lunch rides, and use the 1000 on that and for weekend jaunts.

    I would like everything to sync up on what I will call my "Garmin Daily Timeline" from the activity tracker & 1000 into Garmin Connect (much like the different trackers will sync-up via TrueUp).

    100% understand people are keeping two accounts, broadcasting, and doing all of this other stuff. From a user standpoint: it's not intuitive, friendly, nor user-first-focused. So, totally would love TrueUp to work with my Edge1000 & Fenix.

    Please Garmin?

    Pretty please?
  • Extended display (Varia vision) limitations on Fenix 5 series

    According to this post it seems like there is still some work to do on Garmin's side to fully implement the Extended Display support on the Fenix 5 series.

    I wonder how many Varia Vision units have been sold?
  • Former Member
    0 Former Member over 8 years ago
    Having read through this thread I agree with the OP. As a cyclist that competes I use an edge 520 on the bike. Why? because it is designed for a bike, is held on a mount that is aerodynamic (bike design these days factor in the use of an edge, canyon have integrated aero mounts) and can be easily viewed no matter what position you are riding in on the bike. Also I have a power meter on my bike and at this time the fenix is not accurate compared to an edge at recording power. Like the OP I don't think all info needs to transmit to all devices. There are certain information screens/ fields that lend themselves to garmin True Up that do not currently function this way, those that relate to totals like the training status pages on the fenix which include vo2max, recovery, training load, ftp. Garmin connect could be used as the central repository for these analytics feeding the data back to the device. These are interesting metrics which help with motivation. They aren't useful if they aren't accurate.
  • Garmin, WTF?
    My Edge1000 VO[SUB]2[/SUB]мах = 56, Fenix5 VO[SUB]2[/SUB]max = 49 :mad:

    Make and Enable syncing devices & all values (records, TE, TL, LTHR, Rest HR, MaxHR) with one profile!!!


    The F5 has different VO2Max's for running and cycling. This is entirely possible depending on how efficient your running and pedalling styles are, and also how well developed are the capiliaries that supply blood to the muscles used in cycling versus running.
  • Edge1000 VO[SUB]2[/SUB]мах = 56, Fenix5 VO[SUB]2[/SUB]max = 49


    Do you record all your cycling activities on both the Edge 1000 and the Fenix 5 or do you use them for different kinds of riding?

    If I do a lot of road riding my VO2max goes up. If I'm just commuting it goes down. If I train on a Wattbike I can get it 6 or 7 points higher than for commuting.
  • Does anyone have information on whether Garmin is working on integrating their watches (such as the fenix) and the Edge series? Specifically in terms of syncing workouts and the Training Status metrics. I'm confused how the current "best practice" for getting comprehensive data seems to be to use your watch for everything, instead of supplementing the watch with a bike computer that is both expensive and better suited to the purpose of cycling.

    I'm not a coder but this seems like it would be doable by aggregating the workouts and metrics from both devices in Garmin Connect, and then pulling that info back onto the device. I've noticed that Training Status is currently device-dependent in Garmin Connect, but I see no reason why this needs to be the case.

    Isn't this sort of synergy between Garmin's various devices precisely the sort of thing they should be selling to their core audience who is willing to spend $600-800 on a Fenix 5?


    I've read this whole thread now after posting a similar thought and being guided here with a response ... Reflect mode certainly sounds interesting (it's what wahoo initially did from phone to head unit) but my thought on the integration should be even simpler to implement which would simply be cloud sync via Connect. I have the Fenix 5 and Edge 520. The cycling specific device works best for me on rides for a variety of reasons but visibility / glanceability to all my data at once is the primary. The 5 should be able to get access to ride data and show my last ride / workout whether it was completed on the device or not - which is exactly how the mobile app works thanks to regular sync with the wearables (vivo and now fenix) through the day. Even the Edge 520 does a quick up/down when it's first turned on and at the completion of a ride to update starred segments and upload the rides.

    Since the Fenix is designed to be worn all the time as a watch it should be granted the benefit of seeing all your data.
  • Share ideas with Garmin ...

    I have just submitted this to the Garmin share ideas form ... perhaps some echoed thoughts from other users would help push it along ...


    I would like to see better Garmin Connect sync connectivity on the Fenix 5 so that it can be seen as the HQ for my fitness data. Right now activities logged on my Edge 520 are ignored on the Fenix, yet show nicely on the mobile app and web views. The Fenix should be able to sync this as it already maintains an active connection through the day ... Also data should be more easily shared so that HRV and VO2 does not have to be set / taken on devices uniquely when again it already exists in the system.
  • Former Member
    0 Former Member over 8 years ago
    I'd like to add my two cents.... :-)
    I too own Edge 1000 and F5X and my activities are almost mainly cycling - mountain and road - 4 rides per week.
    I really can't replace my edge with the fenix to record my ride because I am using few IQ data fields which do not run on the Fenix. On the other hand I really like the additional training information that you get from the Fenix. Initially I recorded both as MTB and then deleted the activity from connect - but then all of the training information would be gone. I then tried to record indoor activity on the fenix and at the end of the ride I would manually change the calories to 5 so that my calories won't be doubled. I noticed that since the distance is zero on the Fenix, my training load is very low.... So I will now try to record both as MTB but then I will manually change the distance to zero and calories to 5 so that my totals will not be false.

    And this brings me to a solution that I think is far more simple to implement - I think the only problem in having doubled activities - both from Edge and Fenix is that it damage the totals - specifically distance and calories. All other parameters are less relevant. If connect would have an option in settings to define which device will be used for calculating distance and calories totals - then I think it will be perfect... wouldn't it?
    Itay
  • I'm curious about why someone would buy a multisport watch but use a separate bike computer, especially one that is, as you point out, very expensive. One of the reasons I switched from Polar to Garmin was so that I could have a decent single device for everything. Prior to that I was using a separate running watch and bike computer.

    I'm not trying to be a smart ass, I'm just curious... Obviously the bike computer has a better/bigger display and the Fenix is a good looking wear anywhere watch... so maybe that's why?


    -Ant+ fe-c
    -10 data field
    -10 connect iq data field
    -Bigger display
    -Remote controlled
    -BETTER GPS ACCURACY
  • Former Member
    0 Former Member over 8 years ago
    Hi,
    I'd like to add my 2 cents here...
    I too own Edge 1000 and F5X - my activities are almost primarily cycling - road and MTB. I ride 4 times a week.
    I really need to use the Edge since I have several IQ data-fields that cannot work on the Fenix. On the other hand, I really like the additional training information the Fenix provide. So, when I started I recorded the ride on the Edge as well as on the Fenix - both as MTB or Road. After all was uploaded to connect in order not to have double distance and calories I deleted the Fenix activity from connect. As a consequence, all of the additional training parameters were deleted too. I then tried to use Indoor cycling as activity - then the distance was zero, and then after uploading it to connect - I manually changed the calories of the Fenix ride to 5 so that I won't get doubled calories. This way my training status parameters stayed - but it appears like my training load dropped dramatically - I guess because zero Km were stored... I am going to try the following - which is a bit annoying - and that is to record both activities as MTB or Road and then after they are uploaded to Connect, I will manually change the distance and calories in the fenix file to the minimum value - this is quite annoying to do 4 times a week, but I think this may solve my problem.

    And this brings me to a possible solution which I think can be implemented and should be quite easy. The way I see it, the only problem in having the activity twice is that it damage the totals - specifically the distance and calories totals. I think all other parameters have no problem being twice - having the data from the Edge would not influence the parameters calculated by the Fenix. So perhaps a fairly simple tweak would be if Garmin could add to connect settings an option in which you choose for an activity type (cycling) which device information will be used to accumulate distance and calories totals. The other data will be ignored. This way you will have two activities (perhaps it would be even better to have the option to hide activity type from say the Fenix, but you will also have all the training parameters and totals will also be correct...
    Itay