Increasing VO2 max but negative performance condition?

So, I have had the Fenix 5 for a little over a month now, logging about 45-50 activities (runs, swims w/ HRM-tri, elliptical etc) and I have been overall pleased with the watch. One interesting thing I noticed after my 4 mile easy run this morning, which I'm curious if has happened to anyone else, is that my VO2 max went up (it's been bouncing between 54 and 55 for the past month because of crosstraining/injury, mind you) but my performance condition was negative -1 for the whole run.

If performance condition is a comparison of your effort (HRV, HR) & pace to your current fitness (i.e. VO2 Max), how is it that on a run where the performance condition is negative the whole time that the VO2 max goes up?

I have been under the impression that if youre doing 'well' on a run (i.e. your effort for that day is really low for the pace youre running, be it because your fitness is increasing or just because youre having a good day), that the watch measures that and thus your VO2 max should increase. But, if, like today, youre doing 'poorly' (i.e. Performance Condition is negative) on a run, shouldn't your VO2 Max be decreasing?

Ultimately, it doesn't really matter - as VO2 max honestly is just an approximation of what one can do.. with running economy, lactate threshold, etc, all having their own effect on performance and race times. Perhaps my watch is fritzing out because of all of the cross training I have been doing, but I am curious to see how Performance Condition has predicted changes of your Vo2 max so far? Probably a month is not a large enough sample size for anything to be truly representative, but food for thought!
  • As far as I understand it Performance Condition is not really an indicator on how your overall Training status is (that should be VO2max), but rather how well you recovered from your last training in the recovery time the watch advises you with.
    I think that your Performance Condition will gradually become lower the longer you excersise, however if you are in top shape with a high VO2max it will probably go down slower than if you are out of shape. I also think that the number you end your training with will then be used to estimate your time to recover.
  • I don't think the performance condition has anything to do with the recovery time.

    My belief: The reason why you still could get an increase in VO2 and negative perfomance condition is that the perfomance condition is expected to go down during a long run and since it didn't go down significantly (only -1) the estimated VO2 max is higher than the previous VO2 max.

    it's too bad though that the performance condition (and also VO2 max) is completely wrongly estimated as soon as I hit a uphill. I always end up in performance condition of -10 if running in hilly places and +2, +1 or 0 if flat...
    Hard to believe it has something to do with my condition.
  • I think the initial read of your score is what is counted.  I’ve had runs that begin with +3 after ~8 minutes, then end up negative for the last 80% of a long run.  This still shows at an improvement.  I think VO2 Max is just that, the max oxygen you can consume.  It’s not assuming you stay at your best the entire run, because that would penalize you for distance.  This is just what I’ve come to think is going on