Sleep tracking - how are you finding it?

So I'm not expecting it to be any better on the F5 than it is on my non-HR Fenix 3 but I figured I should ask the question.

How is everyone finding the accuracy of the sleep tracking on their F5?

My F3 is really good at detecting when I start sleeping (vs just sitting on the couch in the evening watching TV etc) but it is awful at detecting my wake up time even though I use the alarm on the watch to wake me up.
So I'm curious to know if the F5 is any better at tracking sleep than the F3? In theory with the OHRM it should be able to detect the fact that you're awake from your heart rate instead of just relying on movement.
My sleep tracking data is usually quite screwed as I will often get up, make a coffee and then sit still for the next hour or so while I enjoy my coffee and read the news. I will usually then remove the watch while I shower/get ready for work before putting it back on and leaving home.
Most mornings the data won't show I've "woken up" till I get to work - which involves a 45 min journey by car. It's not till I walk the approx 200m from the car park to the office that the watch figures out I'm awake!
I would think if the F5 used HR data it would be better at realising you were awake well before this stage.

Or does anyone have any tips on how to ensure good sleeping tracking data?

0 Derp over 8 years ago

Sleep tracking

I think that my F5 is better at sleep tracking than my F3HR (so far). My F3HR would frequently think I went to sleep when I was sitting watching tv or reading in the evening. My F5 hasn't done this yet. Both of them know when I wake up and get out of bed. That's all I really have to go on, I really don't look at sleep tracking much.

0 adammiarka over 8 years ago

I think that my F5 is better at sleep tracking than my F3HR (so far). My F3HR would frequently think I went to sleep when I was sitting watching tv or reading in the evening. My F5 hasn't done this yet. Both of them know when I wake up and get out of bed. That's all I really have to go on, I really don't look at sleep tracking much.

Think this might be because of the OHR sensor. It's much quicker to "shut off" when it has detected the watch not being worn. It's probably helps for determining when you wake up. Other Garmin devices would absolutely fail at this. I would wake up at 4:15am...put my device on the charger, put it back on at 4:45am and Garmin Connect thinks I slept until 4:45am...even while it's charging. My suspicion is that Garmin is using the newer sensor to better detect when you wake up or when the watch is not being worn.

0 Former Member over 8 years ago

Interesting (to the OP) that you're finding your Fenix 3 detected going to sleep well, but not waking up? I'm finding exactly the opposite with my Fenix 3HR - it thinks I went to sleep last night at 7!!

0 NeilJonesOnline over 8 years ago

Yeah, I'm finding the opposite with my f5 too - waking up is fine, especially when I use the alarm (though for some reason it always logs me as waking up 1 minute after the alarm, even if I get up the second it goes off or even a few seconds before). But it usually logs my 'sleep' time when I'm sat watching TV, even though I'll probably take a good 50-100 steps when I do eventually go to bed. I also took it off to charge yesterday evening and it took that as being the start of my sleep time.

0 carl.andersson over 8 years ago

Interesting (to the OP) that you're finding your Fenix 3 detected going to sleep well, but not waking up? I'm finding exactly the opposite with my Fenix 3HR - it thinks I went to sleep last night at 7!!

Yeah from what I've read in the forums most people are having issues with Garmin devices detecting their bed-time not their wake-times but for me it's almost always spot on for bed-time.

I read in another thread that Garmin uses server side movement algorithms to work out bed-time/wake-time even on devices with OHR but I was hoping that maybe it was different for the F5.