Better/smarter data screens for running - like suunto spartan

Also have a look at this data screen, would be great for intervals both for running and cycling. Seems like you can scroll and get a glance at previous intervalls or for indoor running or track running it could be lap times.



Garmin, we need this!

I'm not sure I'm following.

I'm been using an Connect IQ screen which has tons of data fields. It's designed to use on race day to correct mile/km splits, but I use it because it has all the data fields I want to see when running.

https://www.dcrainmaker.com/2016/12/pacing-races-garmin.html

Top Row: Heart Rate, Current 10-Second Average Pace, Cadence
Middle Row: Distance (corrected), Predicted Finish Time
Bottom Row: Overall Time, Overall Average Pace

There are many great "one field" data screens in the garmin connect iq store and I love that developers can utilize programming apis to make their own and design for our own needs however it seems like fenix 5 is restricted to only 2 connect iq data fields, same as fenix 3. This is not very much.

Therefor we need better and smarter data screens in fenix 5 by garmin.

Take a look at suunto spartan. This way you are not locked in to 4 fields in the screen, i like that the hr can utilize the circle frame. In a garmin perspective imagine if you can customize the other fields to say replace avg pace with lap pace and or define the grid, the following images has 2+1+1 (one row of 2 fields, two rows of 1 field) and 2+2+2+1 (3 rows of 2 fields, 1 row of 1 field), in my garmin id like to be able to use those and also: 2+2+1+1 (2 row of two fields, two rows of 1 field)

There are many nice pictures of the Suunto Spartan series. However having used one that is all they are. Nice pictures. GPS accuracy was worse than F3HR and altimeter was drifting very quickly (I guess only the guys with the alti/baro issue on F3HR see worse readings). I know there has been a GPS update to SSU, but at the moment I am not able to test that. It is a promising platform, but might take an iteration or two before it is actually usable. Even the basic analog watch face was buggy, it was fixed twice and it still were resetting the additional data fields by itself.

Also at the time I used the watch it was only possible to show time on top of the display. No way to have heart rate or distance to that curved line at the top. This might have changed as I have not been following the development anymore since xmas.

But I have to agree that these are definitely nice concepts. Something Garmin should also look into for displaying the data.

One feature I really liked on my Ambit 2 was being able to have the top two fields of the display fixed but the third one scrollable through a range of values.

It is quite funny hearing the Spartan praised for flexible display options, as that is something they still haven't really deployed. I'm sure it'll get there in the end.

There are many nice pictures of the Suunto Spartan series. However having used one that is all they are. Nice pictures. GPS accuracy was worse than F3HR and altimeter was drifting very quickly (I guess only the guys with the alti/baro issue on F3HR see worse readings). I know there has been a GPS update to SSU, but at the moment I am not able to test that. It is a promising platform, but might take an iteration or two before it is actually usable. Even the basic analog watch face was buggy, it was fixed twice and it still were resetting the additional data fields by itself.

Also at the time I used the watch it was only possible to show time on top of the display. No way to have heart rate or distance to that curved line at the top. This might have changed as I have not been following the development anymore since xmas.

But I have to agree that these are definitely nice concepts. Something Garmin should also look into for displaying the data.

This thread is not about gps accuracy. Its about how to improve data screen grids.

I'm not sure I'm following.

I'm been using an Connect IQ screen which has tons of data fields. It's designed to use on race day to correct mile/km splits, but I use it because it has all the data fields I want to see when running.

https://www.dcrainmaker.com/2016/12/pacing-races-garmin.html

Top Row: Heart Rate, Current 10-Second Average Pace, Cadence
Middle Row: Distance (corrected), Predicted Finish Time
Bottom Row: Overall Time, Overall Average Pace

I know but fields in connect iq is not often customizeable and you can only have 2 custom fields from connect iq.

Basically I just want garmin to have a better default way of organizing the grid, now that the display is improved.

This thread is not about gps accuracy. Its about how to improve data screen grids.

And the comment was not about gps accuracy but data screens. As said there are good ideas which should be looked at. But I personally take plain text screens on a device that provides even remotely reliable data than pretty screens with no or unuseful content. Pretty running screen with pace from foot pod that cannot be calibrated at all for example. Useless. Or HR gauge that would show the HR zone but those cannot be customized except with one custom setting over all sport profiles. And the list goes on. If I could pick I'd take the SSU screen without touch but with the layout options in it and with the flexibility garmin provides for customization. Hopefully F5 line gets close.

and you can only have 2 custom fields from connect iq..

Fenix3=2
Epix=3
Fenix5=???

:confused:

we will see.

the idea was not to copy straight off, but to use it to try to invent and improve upon the already good things about garmin datascreens.