Talking to retailers wont help you guys. Garmin updates them as frequent as they update us in this thread. (Never)
The best lead we have is the firmware release. To me it says that beta testers of the device gets the "golden master release" and its sent to the manufacturer for putting it on first batch of watches to ship.
Really though, the best information actually comes from Ray (DCRAINMAKER) -- he talks with Garmin HQ and retailers who get the first shipments (Clever Training). He stated yesterday that he's getting his final version "very, very soon" -- which I would assume means in a few days. I would put the first shipment to retailers to last week or so in Feb, meaning very late Feb/ early March we'll be getting the first public units live.
Thanks! Sorry for being a bit dense; does this mean 'early March' for actual delivery or for by when one could place an order for a delivery at a later date?
I've stated before and the conversation I had with the REI employee who place the orders with Garmin, he made it clear again REI will only list on the website products for pre-order that have a 30 day manufacture commitment this was why the very first orders on the F3 and I also had my edge 820 canceled because of Garmin moving the commit date back outside of the 30 day guaranteed window. So based on REI not having the Fenix 5 listed yet and Clevertraining still holding to the expected end of March delivery date I personally I think release will be end of March or first week in April.