Fitness, training load etc inconsistent across devices (F5+ and Edge 1030)

Welcome to the black hole or blind spot or whatever metaphor you want to choose for Garmin. Despite their unclear marketing on "Physio True Up", they are a device obsessed and device focused company, despite having a central app and backend. Instead of acting like a platform, the back end algorithms seem to be handcuffed to individual devices.

Software wise I think it would be fairly simple to change the backend algos to be tied to an individual instead of a device. But they have no incentive to do that since all their revenue and profits are probably tracked internally on a per device basis. The only way the incentives would probably change would be if they were to change the back-end to a real platform, and maybe tie some recurring revenue to it. Like maybe charge a subscription fee for the platform that can run the FirstBeat algos for any activity data fed in from any device, even non-Garmin, and then maybe waive the fees if the data is from a Garmin device. Or make the devices cheaper but then charge for the platform part.

Anyway, this is all speculation on my part, but is the story that makes sense to me. Garmin as usual will never respond to any of this and just continue on their merry way as people keep buying their devices with all the limitations of the algorithm being tied to a device as opposed to a real platform.

By the way, what firmware version are you on for the 5 plus? Ever since I upgraded to 14.0, my 5 plus doesn't seem to record any exercise load for the activities I record on it, thus in Garmin Connect none of those activities contribute to Training Status as far as I can see. A real bummer. Garmin customer support has acknowledged the bug, but as usual complete silence on any timeline for fixing it. Thus my only Training Status contribution seems to be coming from bike rides I do on my Edge 530 whether indoor on a smart trainer or outside.

Hi, is there also a case for the fact that, as multiple people have reported, the Fenix 5 Plus has stopped reporting any exercise load at all since the upgrade top firmware 14.0. thus leading to a training status of not enough data ? I wonder if it needs me to do a run outdoors to trigger a reset or something, lately due to weather for the past couple of months all my Fenix 5 plus activities have been indoors, all outdoors ones have been bike rides on my Edge 530 . Thanks.

Thanks, that is the first I've heard from anyone that it may be related to lack of outdoor activities. But as noted above, I have plenty of outdoor bike rides on my Edge 530. With PhysioTrueUp enabled, shouldn't those count towards Training Status on the watch also?

In any case will try doing a few outdoor runs soon using the watch.

This is not the case, no outdoor activities are required, it should sync up the training load, status and recovery time from from the edge 1030 and the indoor training that I do. 

It just stopped working for no apparent reason two months ago and now shows nothing, please do something about the broken backend. Praying and anticipating that it will resolve itself for us does not help and this is clearly not the case.

Agreed Rob. Function appeared to be broken with introduction of FW14. I have plenty of qualifying activities and there is no syncing of training load from my edge 1030 to my F5+. It is a widespread issue, not limited to ~2-3 people at all judging from all the comments on various posts.

Just adding a "me too" to this thread as well.

Edge 1030 with 11.10 (same problem 11.00) and my Fenix 5S Plus is running 14.00. Problem started as soon as I upgraded the Fenix to 14.00.