Training status from hiking and trail running?

Does it make sense at all to log hiking, trail running etc as running in order to get training status to appear? Or will the numbers not make sense at all? I realize vo2max won't be registered correctly, but I almost never run on roads anyway so that's not really an issue for me.

  • Yes training status disappeared for hiking a while ago now..(on the Fenix 5x)(not sure if it ever came to the plus?) . I really miss it... Especially when you put all that effort in and you see "no status" ... It was not connected to VO2 Max and didn't effect it... even though its the same widget.... now for hiking we just have training load that's it... I do miss "Training status" for hiking... I wish Garmin would bring it back...but they just focus on three basic sports. 

  • In order to generate a Running VO2 Max estimate, you must record a Run activity with heart rate for a minimum of 10 minutes above 70% of your max heart rate. Walking in most cases will not provide you with a VO2 Max estimate. Running VO2 Max can only be estimated when using the Running profile. The Trail Running activity profile will not generate a VO2 Max.

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    "Trail run" does not calculate VO2Max as they say uneven ground and incline/decline gives bad figures

  • The watches can measure pace, cadence, distance, changes in altitude etc., but they cannot know whether you run on a smooth road or on rough ground, rocks, mud, snow, ice etc.. So it is clear that all the derived data (running power, training status, estimated PBs, VO2 max, recreation…) are influenced by that. I experienced that in the first winter with my Fenix 3 a few years ago when my VO2 max dropped a lot when running in deep snow. So don't care too much about those values, they cannot be correct by principle! If you want to know how good your shape is, go on a track or do a competition on an exactly measured flat course.

  • Definitely a good idea to do some tests every now and then, and I do (we have a test lab at work). But I would still like to have some overall statistics such as you get from the elevate Strava plugin or the connectstats app for iOS in Garmin connect. The fitness/fatigue graph presented there gives a ballpark figure that's at least somewhat in line with my subjective opinion of form.

    Not really a big issue, I work out to maintain health and mental wellness. But statistics are still fun though...

  • I like the statistics too, but sometimes i have the feeling that they are taken too seriously. They depend on the quality of data your put in (*** in *** out) and also those parameters you cannot measure (e.g. the conditions of the activity). The companies are including more and more parameters in their devices without indicating sources for errors which leads to lots of discussions in the forums. Many parameters are calculated based on heart rate data and this can deliver wrong data when based on the optical heart rate sensor which is inaccurate due to the measuring principle itself (*** in).

  • Yes that's right I new that..but thanks for the info.. I was not talking about VO2 max....

    I was talking about training status for hiking as it used to be on the 5x in earlier software versions.... You had a training status for hiking... Hiking obviously didn't affect V02 max....but ran separately in the same widget... It was handy as I mostly I use the watch for hiking.