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When you do a slow run do you get "Unproductive" status in Garmin Connect Reports?

N= 2 or 3 approximately: When I intentionally do a slow run (Stryd Zone 1) I get an ugly orange "Unproductive" status in Garmin Connect Reports.

Does Garmin just not think slow runs are productive runs in a training program, or is there something obvious I'm missing?

Thanks!

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emw over 5 years ago in reply to rtperna +2
- The Trail Run activity profile does not generate a VO2 Max measurement.
  - Trail running typically results in higher physical exertion compared to pavement running. This would significantly affect the accuracy…
AJRykala over 5 years ago +1

Normally it’s unproductive if your HR is not matched to your pace for the run. So it’s possibly more like your HR was up compared to what it thought it should be. That’s my understanding a…
AllanOlesen67 over 5 years ago in reply to ImDisaster +1

ImDisaster said:
Productive/Unproductive is about increasing performance condition, ie. VO2max. Exercises that don't push the heart rate don't do that so by that definition they are "unproductive."…

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0 AJRykala over 5 years ago

Normally it’s unproductive if your HR is not matched to your pace for the run. So it’s possibly more like your HR was up compared to what it thought it should be. That’s my understanding anyway

0 nmyeti over 5 years ago in reply to AJRykala

The vo2max calculation seems to struggle with non-maximal efforts

0 JanH over 5 years ago

Unproductive can also be if your VO2max is going down, which can be also due to weather or whatever, but your load is high.

I agree it's not nice to see but I wouldn't worry too much here.

0 SAHO over 5 years ago in reply to JanH

Yes, or if your watch thinks your VO2max has dropped during a slow run because - as nmyeti said above - it's bad at estimating Performance Condition / VO2max at low efforts.

0 JanH over 5 years ago in reply to SAHO

Yes, true! It's just that the watch thinks that your performance is not increasing. The watch can also calculate a low VO2max if you run uphill (which I thought the F5+ would take into account )...

0 alexis over 5 years ago in reply to SAHO

Yes, my Performance Condition is always reported to be horrible when I'm running in Stryd Zone 1.

Thanks for all the thoughts, ladies and gentlemen!

0 Former Member over 5 years ago in reply to alexis

To throw in some more confusion , check out the thread I just started on the 945 forum.

https://forums.garmin.com/sports-fitness/running-multisport/f/forerunner-945/172244/training-status-flip-flop

0 rtperna over 5 years ago

I've been focusing more on trail running this summer, and my status is terminally "Unproductive". Just have to work harder to get my cardio up slamming up and down trails, I guess! :D

0 emw over 5 years ago in reply to rtperna

The Trail Run activity profile does not generate a VO2 Max measurement.
- Trail running typically results in higher physical exertion compared to pavement running. This would significantly affect the accuracy of Training Status.

https://support.garmin.com/en-IE/?faq=apva7Th82K6Mm0zY4shzD6

0 ImDisaster over 5 years ago

Productive/Unproductive is about increasing performance condition, ie. VO2max. Exercises that don't push the heart rate don't do that so by that definition they are "unproductive." They do still burn calories and can go toward your intensity minutes assuming you aren't really sandbagging it so you are getting that benefit.