Altimeter way off

I used to have the Forerunner 235 and the elevation on my run stats were always spot on. I recently got the 5Plus and running at the beach bike path in Southern California says my elevation start was at 180ft! It should be about 10ft.  And during my 8 mile run it was all over the place going from 160ft to 230ft.

what is going on? I have it set for GPS+GLONASS. I used to have it just GPS thinking if I added GLONASS it would be more accurate but it’s the same, if not worse. 

Anyone have any suggestions???

tia!

  • Former Member
    0 Former Member over 5 years ago in reply to AllanOlesen67

    • Do the activity for some hours and wait for an altitude error to build up (best to do this on a day where a large change in barometric pressure is expected). The barometer reading should be unchanged during this.

    When I put my 935 or 945 in altimeter mode, my barometer will still show changes in pressure, it just doesn't use these changes in adjusting elevation. 

  • Former Member
    0 Former Member over 5 years ago in reply to Former Member

    Yesterday I did another alpine hike and altimeter (set on auto calibration) was again way off many times. I think auto calibration works fine in rather flat areas but in alpine terrains it doesn't because DEM is often wrong there. So in the mountains you can't rely on the altimeter set on auto calibration. 

  • I've did several forced calibrations whilst hiking and my altitude seemed to have sorted it's self out. It was reading within 4 meters over 400 meters vertical over 4 hikes on the same mountain. Yesterday did the same hike however in cloudy conditions and it wad 80 meters short at the summit.

    I'm stumped. My previous watch Suunto Spartan always within a couple of meters. I also have my wife's watch to compare with, also a spartan, and hers is the same, very accurate.

    Looks like cloud might have had something to do with it.

    I think I'll have to resort to regular forced calibration.

  • Former Member
    0 Former Member over 5 years ago in reply to kitedavo

    I made the experience the altimeter set on auto calibration is generally OK (but not always) if there is a steady not too steep rise when you go on a mountain. But if it is getting very steep or especially if you climb walls it is way off. But I also experienced that DEM even on summits showed a wrong altitude. I had a suunto ambit 3 before and altitude was always incredible accurate without manually calibrating during an activity 

  • Same here with regard to the Sunnto's My spartan was leaps and bounds ahead of this Garmin Fenix 5x+  in the altitude area and cost me half the price.

  • Maybe a silly point, but I didn't see any mention of ambient pressure here?  If the weather conditions are changing, this would alter the barometer reading and cause the watch to read wrongly?

    On my Fenix, I haven't paid too much attention to the altimeter but my impression is that it reads completely wrongly most of the time - if I start an activity that switches on the GPS, it is much closer to reality after that for a while, but then goes wrong again.

    My working assumption was that when the GPS is running, the altimiter gets calibrated by the GPS, but at other times it's just barometric and therefore it just changes with the weather.

  • I just got this silly reading right after ending a GPS activity and the calibration set to auto. And the graph shows it has jumped between +42 km and -33 km. A bit funny that values like that are even shown.

    So maybe baro+temperature combination since I went inside where temperature dropped about 10 degrees. Still I have never seen this kind of values before.

  • Former Member
    0 Former Member over 5 years ago in reply to PatrickSWarner
    Maybe a silly point, but I didn't see any mention of ambient pressure here?  If the weather conditions are changing, this would alter the barometer reading and cause the watch to read wrongly?

    What? The affects of the barometer (and different settings one can use) were mentioned a few times.