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Incorrect Training Effect (and Training Load) when using external HRM

Since the software 7.10 release on a Fenix 5X Plus, Training Effect (and subsequently Training Load) metrics are not accurately calculated when using a paired heart rate monitor. Is anyone else seeing this?

When recording an indoor training ride using the Fenix's built-in HRM, Training Effect is calculated correctly (I also have a power meter paired here, but this should not affect Training Effect), which also means that Training Load (and VO2Max) is updated correctly. However, when I ride outdoors (without a power meter) and use an an external heart rate monitor, Training Effect is incorrectly calculated VERY very low, and thus does not update Training Load appropriately either.

Yesterday I mountain biked for a 4+ hour ride, burning 3400 calories, climbing 5300'. Average HR of 134bpm, max of 166bpm. It was a beastly ride. Training Effect was given as 0.7 aerobic / 2.4 anaerobic ... "no benefit" for aerobic. Absolutely not correct. 

On another MTB ride last weekend, this time just under 2 hours with 1400 calories burned. Average HR of 144bpm, max of 171bpm... 0.4/2.5 Training Effect.

And for testing purposes, I recorded an indoor ride with no external HR sensor. This was less than an hour ride, 473 calories, average 137bpm, max 180bpm... and it gave me 3.1/2.0 Training Effect and just about doubled my Training Load.

According to First Beat, the Training Effect is a calculation of EPOC values and is calculated solely on heart rate data over accumulated activity time. So distance, elevation, power meter, etc. should be irrelevant.

As of right now, the entire training metrics features of this watch are completely useless. A 5-hour bike ride with over a mile of elevation gain, and almost no impact on my Training Status or Training Load (nor VO2Max, since they use similar metrics). Judging by the 5 months it took Garmin to release the last non-beta software update for the Fenix 5X Plus, I'll probably be waiting until the Fenix 6 comes out. From one bug to the next. Very disappointing.

  • I always stop and save when hr belt is still on, but I get low load values anyway..

  • I found a solution at least for myself.. I use FR945 and Edge530. FR945 gave me correct load values when xc-skiing or indoor cycling. Edge530 also gave me correct load values when indoor cycling. But Edge530 gave me incorrect values when cycling outside, road or MTB. So I thought it has to be something with Edge530. So I checked user settings under the Egde device and noticed that I had incorrect max. heart rate and zones for cycling. There is a default heart rate zones (heart icon) and then you can modify those for each activity profile (cycling icon). Picture attached, in Finnish, but you get the point. There was max. heart rate 230 and load was calculated based on that and therefore too low.

  • Taking belt off early is not the problem I'm having unfortunately. I leave the HR belt on for a while after HR data transferred from belt to watch and the activity is saved. Still very low load recorded. Also my HR zones are very similar between default and running, so that doesn't explain the load issues for me either.

  • Solved.. the max hr was set to 240hr on cycling.. this explains why my 530 was not reporting whell while my 945 was reporting ok for running (the max hr was set there at 180)

  • Today I disabled cycling heart rate zones and used only default and I got 154 load value for 3,5h MTB ride, Trainingpeaks gave 167TSS, so this is much better now. I'll have to check tomorrow again with cycling heart rate zones enabled with same zones as default.

  • Same here. Using Epix gen 2 with garmin pro HR monitor. After a 17km ride the exercise load is 2!

    Also it seems like the Hr monitor cuts out during the ride, leaving me without HR data during the ride. So frustrating.

  • After a 17km ride the exercise load is 2!

    Was it a virtual indoor ride, or a true outdoor ride? If virtual, then with which app?

    Also it seems like the Hr monitor cuts out during the ride, leaving me without HR data during the ride

    Sounds like you may need to change the battery in the strap. If there was no HR data available during most of the ride, then it is not surprising you got load of 2 only.

  • It was real outdoor ride

  • It was a real outdoor ride