Notifications NOT COMMING THROUGH THE GARMIN FENIX 5X PLUS at night and after the night - description and details below

Former Member
Former Member
Hello,
Watch : Garmin Fenix 5X Plus. 
Original Firmware : 7.10 (updated to 7.10immediately after purchase)
Current Firmware : 7.52 Beta (updated on the 19th of May 2019 - yesterday)
Phone : iPhone X
IOS at the time of Garmin Fenix 5x Plus purchase : 12.2
IOS at this time : 12.3 (updated on the 19th of May 2019 - yesterday evening, AFTER watch fw update to 7.52 beta)
Problem : With IOS 12.2 and watch firmware 7.10 (still happening the same way on IOS 12.3 with watch fw 7.52 beta) ->
On and after most nights, the notifications from the phone do not come through to the watch.
Problem Description
All DND (global and while asleep) are OFF
- General Timeframe when notifications stop comming : AT NIGHT and after the night (I cannot say for sure what time interval)
- One night when I drove and did not sleep, the notifications did not stop comming
- Most (95%) nights notifications stop comming to the watch (but there are one or two occasions on 4 weeks in which the notifications did not stop comming)
- During the day, so far, the notifications ALWAYS COME through to the watch
Initial steps :  
- First occurence : I Restarted the iPhone X : This Solved the problem temporarily (that is until the next night)
- Second occurence : I fiddled with watch settings 
    - Turned global DND to ON and OFF again (as you can see below, the global DND is OFF for my watch) : Did NOT SOLVE THE PROBLEM
    - Turned DND while Sleep to ON and OFF again (as you can see below, I keep the DND while sleep always OFF so that notifications come to the watch even when I am asleep) : Did NOT SOLVE THE PROBLEM
    - In the Watch Menu : Settings->Phone->Alerts (which were ON), I toggled the option to OFF and then to ON again : This Solved the problem temporarily (that is until the next night)
- Then it kept happening after most nights, and I toggled the Alerts off and back on - in the watch menu to solve the problem for that day
Secondary steps : 
A. I decided to take a chance to update to the latest 7.52 beta available on the garmin website because it said amongst other things 

    Change History

     Changes made from version 7.51 to 7.52:

  • Fixed an issue where smart notifications could intermittently stop working on iOS devices.
  • Fixed an issue with golf auto-scoring while using CT-10.
  • Fixed an intermittent issue where the device could crash when using the Xero widget.
  • Fixed an issue where the device could crash during a Biking activity when using a speed or cadence sensor.
B. Then I also updated my IOS to the current and latest 12.3.
While awake, past the set bedtime, last night, with 7.52 beta and IOS 12.3, again the notifications stopped working, while I was watching tv. The notifications of course worked on the phone.
I again did a temporary fix on the watch by going to Settings->Phone->Alerts (which were ON), I toggled the option to OFF and then to ON again
 
Conclusion : As it seems to happen only at night, I suspect the issue has something to do with the watch being in a relatively motionless state. Somehow, it's like the DND while sleep turns on, and not off again, BUT AGAIN, I keep ALL DND (global and while sleep) OFF.
Please fix the problem, as this is 50% of the reason I got this top version watch, so that I will get reliable notifications and reliable information.
Below is a list of the current settings
1. The settings that I had on the watch at the times this problem occured : 
- Do Not Disturb (Global) : OFF 
- Do Not Disturb while sleep : OFF (so notifications should always come through)
- Alert Tones : ON
- Phone Notifications 
      - During an Activity : ON / Show : All Notifications / Alert : Tones and Vibration
      - Not During an Activity : ON / Show : All Notifications / Alert : Tones and Vibration
- Sleep :
      - Normal Bed Time : 00:30 (personal setting)
      - Normal Wake Time : 12:30 (personal setting)
- HR Permanent Monitoring (Wrist Heart Rate): ON
- Auto Update Apps : OFF
- Auto Upload Activities : ON
- Physio TrueUp : ON
2. External, third party Apps / Watchfaces installed on the Garmin Fennix 5x Plus
- Watchfaces : 
     - GearMin by _MASHAKE_
     - Gigantus by DimitryIrmetov
     - UltraSlim by MakkasCIQ
     - Line by Stanislav.Bures
     - SC8 by Stanislav.Bures
     - SR1 by Stanislav.Bures
     - XfFace by MakkasCIQ
     - Contrast by ftrimboli
     - Instinct Face2 by Monsterious
     - SC2 by Stanislav.Bures
     - Big Digital with Number of Week by Gue-54
     - SC7 by Stanislav.Bures
     - Split by Stanislav.Bures
     - JFM Okapi by J_F_M
     - M1 by mark.ai
     - VIITA Set - Watchface by JTDev
     - Worldface by JuliensLab
     - My Watch by benjamin.serant
     - DigitStorm by gurjon
     - Optimus HR by RikDingo
     - TotallySimple by mr3ska
     - Simple TDB by TomekCzer
The ones above with RED BOLD fond are the ones I use very often.
- Widgets :
     - StopWatch Widget
     - Temperature Adjust 
     - Battery Widget
     - Battery Analyzer
PS: On beta 7.52, the battery drains faster than 7.10 final version. Normally under controlled conditions with a very simple watchface (time/date/steps/battery) I would lose MAX 2% a day depending on the number of notifications. Now, on 7.52 beta, it's 4% a day. 
Kind Regards,
George Ilinca
  • Former Member
    0 Former Member over 6 years ago

    hi George,

    my understanding about how it works:

    DND - do not disturb

    • iPhone DND = on - notifications are not sent to Garmin
    • iPhone DND = off - notifications are sent to Garmin regardless the DND on the watch; Garmin will receive the notifications and only the way that "display" them is controlled by Garmin DND
      • Garmin DND = off - watch will vibrate/sound/backlight 
      • Garmin DND = on - no  vibrate/sound/backlight 

    I have a 20:00 - 12:00 sleep time on my watch, and I usually in the morning overwrite the DND=off 

    but I made a test change the sleeping 13:26 - 13:30

    I used  SMS as test notifications.

    till 13:26 - SMS showed on Garmin + vibrate/sound/backlight 

    13:26 - 13:30 - SMS showed on Garmin but no vibrate/sound/backlight

    from 13:30 -  SMS showed on Garmin + vibrate/sound/backlight 

    so looks good to me.

    moreover, Strava, VIP email,  Urgency National notifications all came on Garmin after 13:30

    all these are fine, still, sometimes I have the same feeling some notifications are missing.

    just me,

    robert 

  • I have this issue on my Fenix 5+, I have to reset the Bluetooth on my iPhone daily after the DND turns off at the morning. The new Marq series address this issued, since I have been wearing the Marq Athlete for over a week, so far he notification has been solid. 

  • Former Member
    0 Former Member over 6 years ago in reply to Former Member

    Got the same issue since months with my Fenix 5 plus and iPhone XS although i have DND disabled and only power off my phone over night.

    I turn off and on the bluetooth on thephone to get it work until the next day.

    Reported long time agoe to beta team and posted here.... but as usual Garmin doesn't care since they already got your money on their bank.

  • Former Member
    0 Former Member over 6 years ago

    Got the same issue since months with my Fenix 5 plus and iPhone XS although i have DND disabled and only power off my phone over night.

    As workaround, i turn off/on the bluetooth on the phone to get it work until the next day.

    However if i forget to do that in the morning, i miss all calls and notifications - thank you Garmin - 900$ seems not enought!

    Reported long time agoe to beta team and posted here.... but as usual Garmin doesn't care since they already got your money on their bank.

  • I apologize if I missed this but did you restart your watch? I know you restarted your phone. If you haven’t, restart your phone, restart your watch and reopen GCM. Go into your Control Panel and stop and restart your phone connection. 

    If if that fails, wipe your watch clean and just install what you need to until you see how that worked. How long have you had it (5x+) for?

  • Former Member
    0 Former Member over 6 years ago in reply to Odie21

    I have nothing installed on the watch - not even music.

    Sorry, but whiping and restart the watch did never help in that case.

  • Former Member
    0 Former Member over 6 years ago in reply to Former Member
    • yes, same issue....now and then notifications stop.

    yesterday morning I had a bike activity, no more notifications since.

    so indeed it is not solved.

    and when I started GarminConnect the watch is not connected, even on watch appear connected. 

    what I tried:

    -bluetooth on/off on iPhone - no effect

    -same on watch - no effect 

    - restart the watch - connection is back

    robert

  • Former Member
    0 Former Member over 6 years ago in reply to Former Member

    ...to continue the story...

    after the watch showed the notification I came to the office with my bicycle.

    I sync the activity. Sync successful.

    and after that no more notifications, neither calls nor SMSs or other.

    in this case, the GarminConnect showed "connected" the new activity was there.

    what I did:

    I entered the notification widget and there were 24 or so notifications.

    I restarted the watch and now appear only 4 notifications. and notifications start to work.

    could be also a limited number of notifications in the queue?

    I'll try to make some tests, to see if I can reproduce:

    - notification works ---- activity ----sync -----notifications do not work

    - notifications work---- more notifications till 24 (?) unread in the watch --- notifications stop showing

    keep in touch.

    robert 

  • Former Member
    0 Former Member over 6 years ago in reply to Former Member

    ... the story gets spooky.

    I'll start with the fact that, till now, I never paid too much attention to notifications.

    this morning:

    - fenix came out of DND

    - iPhone came out of DND

    ......notifications are fine.

    bike to work.

    saved activity.

    ....notifications are fine.....

    but....the activity is not in Connect!!!!!!!!!!!!...and when I force a sync in Connect I get Sync Failure.

    so...seems that it is a "too close" relation between:

    - notifications

    - DND

    - activity sync

    nasty...

    robert

  • Former Member
    0 Former Member over 6 years ago in reply to Former Member

    hi all,

    update.

    for 2 days in the row now, works fine.

    - every day in the morning DND goes off [fenix (and iPhone)]

    • notifications ok

    - activity start

    • notifications ok

    - activity stop + sync

    • sync ok
    • notifications ok

    ...after 8-9 h

     - activity start

    • notifications ok

    - activity stop + sync

    • sync ok
    • notifications ok

    - DND on

    next morning all the above repeated looks good.

    IOS 12.3.1 came couple of days ago...

    just me,

    robert