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2018.20 Australia & NZ Map Update Fail

Former Member
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Two weeks ago I had an issue updating the maps for my new Fenix 5X Plus, contacted support and was told that Garmin Express wasn't compatible with a 4G wifi connection and so they couldn't help me. I have since upgraded my connection and have successfully downloaded the 2018.20 topoActive maps, however on install I am getting the error "There was an error installing the update."

Not only that, but the original maps that were on the device have now been replaced with the most basic map that only shows major roads and no contours. I now understand that a backup of all files on the watch would have been advisable before an update is carried out, something which I would have thought would automatically be done before an update by Garmin Express.

I have contacted support again and they offered me a refund. I told them that I bought the watch because I want to use it, not to get a refund. After 1.5hrs on the phone I have now lost all of my user settings/history after completing the requested factory reset.

I have now sent all files to Garmin Support minus map files in hope that they can sort something out - when is another question. I have never had an issue like this before and I have owned 3 other Garmin devices in the past 10 years. I use the watch for my business reviewing and writing up hiking trail guides in Australia, I need it sorted asap.

Garmin Express is now stuck in the install mode for this map and won't let me download it from scratch, much like the other maps already on the device - I have deleted the other maps files, and they re-download and re-install without an issue when I select Map Options -> Reinstall Map. I need to have this option for the 2018.20 A&NZ Map, or a download link for the file which support say is not possible.
  • Former Member
    0 Former Member over 6 years ago
    Got a reply from support this morning...

    ‘Thank you for contacting Garmin Australasia.

    We are currently aware of an issue with installing TopoActive AU and NZ in Garmin Express.

    Our engineering team is currently working on a fix and you have been added to the ticket. Once the issue has been resolved you will be notified directly.’
  • got this from garmin this morning NZ time:

    "Thank you for contacting Garmin.


    Please ensure that your devices software is up to date using Garmin Express and connecting your device to the computer.

    http://software.garmin.com/en-US/express.html


    Please attempt re-installing the software on your device via the Garmin Web Updater application.

    You can find this application in the link below.

    http://www8.garmin.com/products/webu...wtoinstall.jsp



    Then re-attempt Garmin Express."

    I have the latest Garmin Express (6.12), WebUpdater installed but cant find my device (plugged into 2018 Macbook Pro). Garmin Express finds device, syncs. Still had map update showing so tried to update, gives my EULA screen, accepts, then goes to update, fails and then pops back to screen with the big Red Box.

    Garmin said to call them in NZ so I guess thats my next step
  • For what it's worth. I have a Garmin fenix 5 Plus. With exactly the same issue. Glad it's not just me. Has anyone tried to factory reset their watches before updating this map? That was my next course of action but it sounds like there's an actual issue with the update.
  • Hi Chan

    As of about two hours ago, I spoke with support and its now been escalated. I am sending them files etc. as they will "escalte" I tried the factory reset and it didnt work, I think others have as well. Suggest you email them and get on the list of people who have the issue.
  • Hi msiladi, I did send them an email. They replied that I had to call them for support... But that appears to be a waste of time...
  • Yeah, probably. I'm chasing them and I think others are. Pretty annoying at this price point. I will post anything I get back. I've been with GARMIN for 12 years. They have bad patches on software, particularly around new up0grades. I always wait about a year till the new model settles in. That said, this is not an item that should be messed up given it is a functionality that is a principal driver of sales (for me def).
  • Former Member
    0 Former Member over 6 years ago
    For what it worth, I have spoken to support they couldn't help, got me to send all the log files and said their engineers would look at it and get back to me. After 2 or so days I got an email saying it was resolved but I still had the same problem. I replied to that email and then followed up 2 days or so later with another email only to get another reply saying they are aware of the issue and busy looking at it.
    My Fenix 5 plus is only a few weeks old and I've tried resetting it a few times using all the various different ways to do so - reinstalled express, installed on different machines including a mac and all with the same error.
    I agree with msiladi this is a premium product that comes at a premium price so there shouldn't be issues like this in the first place. And if there are any issues Garmin should be more open and communicate what the issues are and why is it taking so long to resolve. But based on the various email that people have been getting - it seems like we are all just getting the runaround.
    Therefore one can only conclude that Garmin has no idea what's wrong and what to do! OR they know what is wrong and can't fix it ie. hardware issue that should warrant a recall but hope that the majority of complainants will lose interest and just move. OR They just don't really care!
  • ill give them a little while longer but then ill try to find the local (NZ) office (not support) and blast them. They have always relied too heavily on users to be their testing and quality team. Shame really. Too many products and they are now seeking the casual end of fitness and outdoor. Dumbing down.
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  • Former Member
    0 Former Member over 6 years ago
    Shame indeed, I expected more from Garmin, been a poor experience, they told me they are aware of an issue with the update...,

    well why not send an email out to to people warning them not to update as they will loose their current Aus+NZ maps in the process, or disable the update entirely until it is fixed.
    From scouring the internet it seems the same issue has happened before with Europe and USA map updates
    the Europe one took a few months to fix
    how hard could it be to add a link to download the preloaded maps, and just drag them back on to the watch, seriously

    i can’t help but want to try a different brand next, and definitely have been put off ever buying any maps just incase of more drama, very disappointing

    and why is there no map / route making ability in the connect app anyway... rant over, hopefully it is fixed soon
  • Former Member
    0 Former Member over 6 years ago
    Got this email this morning - looks rather standard and I had already sent them the log file which they seem to have forgotten: Anyway still have the same problem nothing has changed.

    ------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------

    Thank you for contacting Garmin Support Australasia.

    Please attempt to update your Garmin Express to the latest version and reattempt the TopoActive update once more.


    For instructions on manually checking for a Garmin Express update, click your operating system below: WindowsMac
    Once the installation is complete, Garmin Express will be up-to-date.




    Please advise us of the results after you have attempted the above. If the above does not work may we please have the following information requested by engineering for further review:

    Garmin Express Logs

    To collect the logs from the computer using the Garmin Express Log Collector:

    Windows:
    Mac:
    • Select Finder or Macintosh HD from desktop
    • Select Go from the Mac menu bar (gray bar at the top of the screen)
    • Select Go to Folder…
    • Empty the Go to the folder: text field if text exists
    • Type in the following: ~/Library/Application Support/Garmin/Express/Logs
      • Locate Client_(most recent date) and Service_ (most recent date) files


    These files can be attached to Garmin Product Support correspondence.



    Kind Regards

    Anamaria

    Product Support Consultant

    Garmin Australasia

    Phone: AU 1800 235 822 NZ 0800 427 652

    Website: https://support.garmin.com/en-AU/